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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 05:13 PM
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Colombian singer Juanes receives death threats over Cuba peace concert
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 05:15 PM by Mika
Note para's bolded by me . More validation that Cubans (who can afford it) do travel and then return home, even outspoken anti Castro Cuban citizens

Colombian singer Juanes receives death threats over Cuba peace concert
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/25/singer-death-threats-cuba-show
It has been billed as a "concert for peace" in Cuba, but political passions have unleashed death threats, protests and insults against the rock star organiser of an event that will bring together some of the biggest names in Latin American music.

Militant Cuban exiles have accused Juanes, a Colombian singer and one of Latin America's biggest stars, of succouring the island's communist government with a concert next month in the Plaza de la Revolución in Havana.

Protestors in Florida smashed CDs, burned T-shirts and sent angry messages to his Twitter account, including warnings he was hated and "will die", prompting police to step up vigilance near the singer's Key Biscayne home in Miami.

Juanes, 37, has recruited top Latino acts to perform with him at the 20 September Peace Without Borders show, including Puerto Rico's Olga Tañon, Spain's Miguel Bosé and Cuba's Silvio Rodríguez and the band Los Van Van.

The Grammy-award winning artist, whose real name is Juan Esteban Aristizábal, said the event was intended to set aside ideological differences and "knock down our own mental walls". He organised a peace-themed concert on Colombia's border with Venezuela during last year's tension between the two governments.

Critics say the Cuban concert will espouse official propaganda because it will feature local acts closely associated with the Castros' half-decade old rule. Fidel, 83, appeared on Cuban television on Sunday for the first time in more than a year, the latest sign his health is improving. His brother Raúl took over as president 18 months ago.

The exiled Cuban singer Willy Chirino said Juanes had strayed into politics. "I love the fact that he decided to play a concert for peace for the Cuban people," he told the Miami Herald. "But if he doesn't want any political connotations, why is he inviting Silvio Rodríguez and Amaury Pérez ... two of the most pro-revolutionary artists in Cuba?"

Juanes has reportedly invited Gorki Águila, the outspoken singer of the Cuban punk band Porno Para Ricardo, who has been jailed and fined but continues to rail against the Castros as geriatric tyrants.

Águila, who is currently visiting relatives in Mexico, said he would love to perform but had not yet received the invitation and doubted the authorities would allow him join the line-up.


"Juanes' initiative seems well-intentioned but naive," he told the Spanish newspaper El País. "If the concert talks about peace it must talk about the lack of freedom. Otherwise it's not going to be credible."



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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:56 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this as I'm a Cuban music fanatica and it's interesting to
see Juanes and Gorki mentioned in the same article.

I'd like to see them jam together with Silvio on guitar!
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 11:18 AM
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2. If he survives.
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 11:20 AM by Mika
I was flipping thru the radio dial here in Miami yesterday that consists of nothing but two classic rock, one electro dance, a couple of gangsta rap stations, and several all sports en/esp stations, a couple of Rushball RW talk stations in English, and dozens of rabbid RW exile call-in talk stations. The exile callers make the thugs at the h-c town hall meetings look totally calm and reasoned, and the talk hosts egg them on.

The vast majority want Juanes to be murdered.

Juanes, on the advice of Miami PD, has had to hire security to protect his Key Biscayne home and his family 24/7.

Miami's violent exile history is legendary. I fear for this man and his family.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 11:57 AM
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3. I see it now, although I didn't notice the first time I read this. Exactly right.
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 11:58 AM by Judi Lynn
That "punk" "singer" Gorki Águila, loudly discussed by some here last year as they attempted to portray him as an artiste being persecuted by the government is currently visiting kin in Mexico.

Imagine trying to stretch an explanation which would cover their first claims to incorporate this news about the little beastie who was arrested for disturbing the peace, then released.

So this new "insult" has them all chewing the scenery. If Juanes weren't as well known no doubt it wouldn't hack them off nearly as badly as it does now. They define the world as either with them, the Miami rabid radical reactionaries, or with "Castor," the odd way some of them spell his name on message boards. (Apparently that has some comical point to it, in their eyes, although it doesn't make a bit of sense to me.)

You can't possibly be neutral, in their opinion. If you attempt to insist on being neutral, you'll see they will designate you as the "enemy," anyway.

I think, based on what I've gathered over the years, Mika, you may be right, that he is actually in danger of having something extreme happen to him and his loved ones. They haven't had anyone "big" they could really work up a burning hatred against for a while, and this could really serve to fascinate and bind them.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 12:38 PM
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4. The death threats and violence taunting has to be against the laws of broadcasting.
Vigilia Mambisa, headed by Miguel Saavedra, (pictured below, attacking an anti Posada protester) had a mass Juanes CD burning event last week that was very reminiscent of nazi book burnings. He is leading the fanning of the flames of violence as an outraged advocate of anti Castro retribution at any cost of collateral harm.




Like so many other good and decent advocates of peaceful normalization w/Cuba, he will be run out of town - if not harmed - by the mob.

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Texano78704 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:34 PM
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7. Bizarre
Last night on the network news for Univisíon, they showed a bunch of old people in Miami smashing CD's. The irony is that they had to purchase them first.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 01:35 PM
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5. I wonder why Cuban authorities wouldn't allow him to perform
its in Cuba isn't it???? but I guess counterrevolutionary messages aren't permitted. what was he jailed for Mika??
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:28 PM
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6. Gorki was jailed on a drug possession conviction.
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 02:32 PM by Mika
He then violated his parole conditions (the SOP of not getting into any brushes with the law) when he was fined for the much publicized disturbing the peace charge, with his loud drunken cursing into his band speaker system late at night in a residential neighborhood where they were rehearsing. The judge didn't throw him in jail for parole violation, instead Gorki was fined about $26 dollars for disturbing the peace.

Now he's vacationing in Mexico and is returning to "Castro's gulag" to rock on, hopefully at the Juanes concert.


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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:44 PM
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8. he doesn't appear confident that the Cuban goverment will allow him to perform does he?
well, I hope he gets to play too.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:50 PM
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9. I found some more info on his arrest for "dangerousness." Kind of a pre-emptive arrest
obstensibly to prevent disruption of social order it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorki_%C3%81guila


Gorki Águila (born November 11, 1968 in Havana) is a Cuban punk rock musician and dissident, who has publicly criticized communism. He is the leader of the Porno para Ricardo band.

Águila lives with his father in a small apartment in Marianao, where he also has been recording his songs with the band since they were forbidden to have concerts. His mother and sister live in Mexico. Águila has a 11-year old daughter, Gabriela.<1>

Initially, his band was well-received by the Cuban authorities, being even featured on television, but as his lyrics became bolder, he was banned from performing in public and the songs being put on the internet with help of a friend from abroad.<2>

In 2003, Águila was jailed on drug charges after a policewoman posed as a fan and baited him into giving her amphetamines. He argues this was entrapment and an attempt to silence him. After serving his jail time, Aguila became an even more outspoken critic of the Cuban government, his lyrics growing more political. In an interview with CNN in 2007, Aguila said that "Communism is a failure. A total failure. Please. Leftists of the world -- improve your capitalism."<2> In an interview with exiled Cuban anarchists PPR described anarchism as being "very seductive." (See:http://www.anarkismo.net/article/9183).

In August 2008, Águila was arrested by the Cuban police with the charge of "dangerousness", which allows them to detain people whom they think they are likely to commit crimes. The charge carries a penalty of one up to four years in prison. Signs of a "dangerousness state" are habitual drunkness and anti-social behaviour.<3> He was eventually ordered to pay a $30 fine for the lesser offence of public disorder, after prosecutors dropped the more serious charge.<4>

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:23 PM
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11. You were posting to discussions of this at the time.
And it was proven out that Gorki's "dangerousness" charge, that the MSM ran with from a Cubanet article by an "independent journalist" who reported that "some people said" that Gorki was arrested, wasn't true at all. Even Gorki himself said so. He had a parole hearing over his violation of the parole agreement for his drug conviction - and the judge was quite reasonable by fining Gorki $26 and not returning him to jail.

Wiki on Cuba is anything but accurate with edits by anti Cuba zealots, who also repost them as "fact" on discussion boards.


PpR is advocating anarchy? Good thing he's not in the USA then, if he wants to publicly advote it.

This is how anarchists are treated here in the USA..














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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:40 PM
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12. I don't recall Green Day being banned from performing, or Bob Dylan 40 years ago
the Cuban state doesn't appear to be too encouraging of free expression. then again, I can understand some of their "no tolerance" policies when you have people running around buying bags of cement.

here is another article on Gorki's arrest for "peligrosidad". I do recall a little discussing this a year ago. maybe you can provide some info on how the arrest was disproven to refresh my memory.

http://www.aol.com.au/tv/story/Jailed-Cuban-punk-rocker-to-stand-trial-Friday/911641/index.html







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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:55 PM
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10. Gorki banned from performing in public in Cuba
Banned
Porno Para Ricardo is banned from official airwaves and from performing in public in Cuba. With the help of a friend outside the country, the band put its songs on the Internet, and its albums are distributed only by hand in Cuba.

In 2003, Gorki Águila was jailed on drug charges in what he said was an attempt to silence him. Freemuse then ran an international campaign for his release. He was released in March 2005.


has more info on Gorki too including a series of arrests.

http://www.freemuse.org/sw29621.asp
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 11:29 PM
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13. Gorki's arrest was used as propaganda by a "journalist" who works with a right wing think tank
The media picked up on it and fell for the BS. Now all anyone in the US remembers is poor little Gorky repressed by Fidel. Not so in the 2008 disturbing the peace situation. I do agree that the charge of dangerousness (peligrosidad) can be completely abused by authorities in Cuba. In this case a right wing concern built on that and managed to control the story for their interests.

Mika you are completely correct on this one.


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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 09:10 AM
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14. The poster has tried to sell DUers the idea that Cubans aren't allowed to travel.
Edited on Fri Aug-28-09 09:12 AM by Mika
Of course the poster has never been there and has no contact with any Cubans in Cuba - making him/her a DU Cuba "expert".

The OP article proves otherwise on the RW notion (projection) that Cubans are travel banned like Americans are from going to Cuba. Even loud and obnoxious virulent anti Castro pro anarchist rocker Gorki takes a vacation in Mexico (because he or his family can afford it) and is hoping to play at the government endorsed peace concert (why an anti gov anarchist would want to do that is beyond me, unless he has plans to fuck it up if PpR gets an invite to play).






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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 09:59 AM
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15. it doesn't sound like the government will let him play. Not big on free expression in Cuba
are they? what is your take on the peligrosidad law??? if Cubans are free to come and go as they please why are they prevented from migrating to the US and why do they need a tarjeta blanca?

yeah, it would be great if Cubans could participate in this forum, but they wouldn't be allowed now would they? so we are stuck with the "Cuban perspective" from a hardcore Castro lover and propaganda from Cuban government "news" services.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 09:51 AM
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16. I don't see any dates, but we should have a DU meetup
at this concert.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 08:04 PM
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17. September 20 2009 for the Juanes concert
a bit early for a meetup. Hurricane season too.

I suggest late January!
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 02:21 PM
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18. That is too soon. I'll check my calendar for Jan.
There is not shortage of good music in Cuba. Would any of our right-wing DUers like to join in the meetup?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 09:37 PM
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19. Right wing Cubans hate most current Cuban music
They call salsa Cubana known as timba - timba monga - the Cubans on the island can't do anything right... but at least they cannot blame them for reggaeton since that got popular in Puerto Rico!

There were many in Miami who went to see Los Van Van, the grammy winners, so some people have good taste in Miami.
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