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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:10 AM
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Miami-Dade's Cuban-American legislators push for Cuba travel regulations (penalizing travel)
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 09:19 AM by Mika
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/484870.html
Miami-Dade's Cuban- American legislators once again are pushing for laws regulating travel and business between the United States and Cuba.

Confusion swept over the face of some of the senators at a recent state Senate Commerce Committee meeting.

In front of the group was a proposal calling for more state regulation of travel agents selling trips to nations deemed as sponsors of terrorism by the United States. The bill's sponsors want to discourage Florida travel agents from arranging trips to Cuba -- which is on the U.S. State Department list of terrorism sponsors -- by requiring them to register with the state and pay a fee of up to $2,500.

But the idea was met with skepticism by several members of the Senate committee.

''International travel is perhaps not in the purview of Florida,'' said Sen. Steve Oelrich, a Gainesville Republican. ``I'm just very bothered by the whole concept. I'm very confused about this all.''

So goes another legislative session, where Cuba-related bills are being pushed full throttle by some of Miami-Dade's Cuban-American legislators but are met with hesitation by those outside of South Florida's circle of influence.

''Nobody understands it unless they've been through it. Some of them never will,'' said Rep. Eduardo ''Eddy'' Gonzalez, a Hialeah Republican, who along with Rep. David Rivera, the author of the Cuba travel bill, and Rep. Luis Garcia, a Miami Beach Democrat, are all pushing for measures related to Cuba.

''For us, it's personal because we grew up with our parents raising us with the American dream, but also telling us about how things were in Cuba before Fidel,'' Gonzalez said.

He has pitched a bill that would ban American doctors from practicing in the state if they traveled to Cuba for medical training.

The bill is seen as largely preemptive, considering only eight doctors have graduated from the Latin American School of Medical Sciences in Havana, none of whom live in Florida.

''I don't mind if other people criticize me,'' Gonzalez said of the measure. ``At the end of the day I follow my heart and stand up for things I believe in.''

Gonzalez's bill has gone nowhere in the House, with no committee votes scheduled. Its Senate companion, sponsored by Sen. Alex Diaz de la Portilla, a Miami Republican, has yet to be heard.

Rivera's bill, backed in the Senate by Sen. Carey Baker, a Eustis Republican, has had more traction. It is ready for a House vote, but still has three more committee stops in the Senate.

It would require travel agents selling trips to terrorist nations to register with the state Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

The companies would have to pay a fee of up to $2,500 -- which sellers specializing in trips to Cuba, such as Maria Teresa Aral, president of Miami-Dade based ABC Charters, say is ''over regulation.'' Aral says her company already answers to the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control, the State Department and other federal agencies that regulate travel.

''He's wasting taxpayer dollars,'' Aral said of Rivera. ``Instead of focusing on issues that impact all of Florida like taxes and insurance he's focusing on pandering to hard-line Cuban voters.''

Armando García, president of Miami-based Marazul Charters Travel, which specializes in selling trips to Cuba, said any extra fees will be absorbed by customers, and may cause some of them to look toward agencies based in New York.

''Not only do families have to deal with a long list of laws that keep them from traveling to Cuba, but now the ones that can go are going to have to deal with yet another ridiculous law,'' García said.

Rivera shrugs off the impact his bill would have on the vendors.

''These businesses are partners with Fidel Castro and his communist regime,'' he said.

``I have no sympathy.''

Another measure awaiting decision in the House is a proposal by Garcia, The Miami Beach Democrat, to pass a House memorial calling for the ''United States government to encourage free and fair elections'' in Cuba.

''It's a symbolic measure,'' Garcia said. ``Some may not understand, but for us this shows that regardless of how far we've come, we also have our cubanidad and have not forgotten where we come from.''

As the Senate committee discussed Rivera's bill, the Cuban-American senators' arguments were persuasive.

Sen. Gary Siplin, an Orlando Democrat, wanted to know why this was such a big deal.

''If Homeland Security doesn't consider this a threat, are they missing the boat on this?'' he asked.

''It's not only our responsibility to protect our soil, but to protect human rights,'' responded Diaz de la Portilla.

The travel agents ''are schemers and scammers,'' said Sen. Rudy García, a Hialeah Republican. ``A great number of them are in cahoots with the communists in Cuba.''

Soon after the speeches, several senators changed their minds, unanimously voting in favor of the bill. Even Siplin voted in favor.


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on edit: All three - Rep. Eduardo ''Eddy'' Gonzalez (R), Rep. David Rivera (R), the author of the Cuba travel bill, and Rep. Luis Garcia, a Miami Beach Democrat - have NEVER been to Cuba.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:41 PM
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1. Idiots! I've read about David Rivera and Rudy Garcia, two true imbeciles living off the anti-Cuba
fanatacism in South Florida.

You may recall hearing about Florida State Senator Rudy Garcia's grandmother, who, when someone took her to the state offices to get her food stamps, didn't like the behavior of the employees, got SIX LEVELS of state employees fired, first the one who helped her, then the one who hired her, and then the one who hired the one who hired her, etc. before she was satisfied, FINALLY!

It's not as if she were poverty ridden, since Senator Rivera's family owns its own successful roofing business. They just wanted to make sure they're getting all the benefits available to Cuban immigrants, but no other immigrant group.

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As for David Rivera?
A Miami Republican who prodded President Bush to get tougher on Fidel Castro is one-upping the president: He's proposing to strip food stamps and health insurance from those who travel to the island.

Dubbed the "Travel and Commerce with Terrorist Nations Act," a bill proposed by State Rep. David Rivera, R-Miami, would punish those who travel -- even legally -- to Cuba by cutting off access to Medicaid, food stamps and housing assistance for a year.

Rivera said the legislation is aimed at stopping recent arrivals who come to the United States, apply for benefits and then travel back to visit Cuba.

Though such travel is legal, Rivera argues that the money spent on the island only helps prop up Cuban leader Castro.

"It's an issue of gratitude," Rivera said at a news conference Tuesday. "People are sick and tired of people living here, taking advantage of taxpayer generosity and then providing financial support to the Castro regime by traveling back to the island."

Under the bill, anyone who has lived in Florida for less than five years and travels to any country the U.S. Department of State lists as a sponsor of terrorism would be ineligible for state services for at least a year.
http://barkbarkwoofwoof.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_barkbarkwoofwoof_archive.html

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I've never been fortunate enough to know anything about Eduardo Gonzalez. <gasp, gag, wheeze>



Senator Rudy Garcia



Senator Rivera standing to Huckabee's left



Senator Eduardo Gonzalez


Jesus Christ, but they're a slimy group!

Mika, it's so hard to imagine how stupid these people have to be to keep ragging about Cuba day in, day out, day in, day out, omigod! You'd think it would drive them all insane and they would rush to the ocean and drown themselves. Holy smokes!

Do you think they see their choke-hold on American policy in Cuba coming to an end, and are getting desperate? We can always hope!
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:43 AM
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2. Sorry, Folks, But The Thaw Ain't Likely To Come From Florida
Sorry, folks, but the more I think about it, the more I think that the political impetus for a thaw in US--Cuba political thaw is likely to come from outside Florida than from within it.

I suspect that those hard-line legislators' agenda could be around for years. I don't know the current composition of the Florida legislature, but as long as the majority of the Florida legislature is in Republican hands, the hard-liners are going to be dictating Florida's policies towards its island neighbor. Floridians are likely to be stuck with those solons' antics for years--unless the Florida Republican Party loses a lot of clout. Even if the majority of Cuban emigres and Cuban-descended folk decide that they're sick and tired of the hard-liners' policies, those solons will still be calling the shots as far as Florida--Cuba relations are concerned, especially if they live in safely-Republican districts where non-Cuban voters are willing to put up with anti-Havana histrionics as long as those state reps and state senators toe the Republican line in other areas. As long as they're an important voting block in the GOP, they'll be needed by other Florida Republicans.

I think that the rest of the country is getting tired of the hard-liners' taxpayer-subsidized vendetta with the current Havana regime. Even here in Texas, a woefully-governed and Republican-dominated state, bashing the post-1959 Cuban regime isn't likely to rouse too many GOPsters and hard-line "Amurrican" conservatives. I doubt it's because of our enlightened political consciousness; I suspect it's more because a lot of right-wingers who think like "bidnessmen" have quietly concluded that the hard-liners' campaign against Havana is a bigger loser than selling buckboard wagons to status-conscious Dallas suburbanites, and that they see dollar signs when they think of agricultural and farm equipment sales and Cuba at the same time.

I also suspect that Texans across the spectrum are also thinking that the travel restrictions are an infringement on our freedoms, and everybody except the remaining hard-core cosmic Commie killers wonders if the restrictions have proven to be a dud.

I suspect that greed and the rest of the country's boredom with the hard-liners' never-ending battle with Fidel are probably going to do as much as anything to thaw out US--Cuba relations.
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