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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:10 PM
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In Defense of Pachamama
LA PAZ - Through their ancestral knowledge and traditions, indigenous peoples will make a unique and invaluable contribution to the World People’s Conference on Climate Change and the Rights of Mother Earth, which begins Monday, Apr. 19 in the central Bolivian city of Cochabamba.

Julio Quette of the Confederation of Indigenous Peoples of Eastern Bolivia (CIDOB) told IPS that the 74 different indigenous groups who inhabit South America’s Amazon region "have traditionally coexisted with nature and the forests," and that it is up to the industrialized countries to halt the pollution and destruction of the planet.

For her part, Jenny Gruenberger, executive director of the Environmental Defense League (LIDEMA), commented to IPS that "Bolivia could make an enormous contribution based on the traditional knowledge of the indigenous and aboriginal nations that make up this plurinational state."

The country is officially known as the Plurinational State of Bolivia, in recognition of the fact that over 60 percent of Bolivians belong to one of its numerous indigenous ethnic groups.

A total of 17 working groups have been organized as part of the World People’s Conference, to address issues such as the structural causes of climate change, living in harmony with nature, and the rights of Mother Earth, or Pachamama.

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"Latin American organisations and governments could acquire all the capacity they need to confront the influence of the industrialized nations and become a center of resistance against the current development model, but first they need to agree upon a unified stance," LIDEMA research coordinator Marco Ribera commented to IPS.

Ribera said that it is time for the region’s countries to put aside the "different interests" they each pursue and to use the Cochabamba conference as a forum to build "strong technical and political proposals with a high degree of legitimacy to negotiate at the 16th Conference of the Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change."

Ribera believes the upcoming conference could become a new forum for the struggle in defence of the planet, given the opportunity it will provide for the world’s people to express their views and proposals, "an opportunity they are not offered in official forums for international negotiations."

more: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/04/16-9">Common Dreams
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:46 PM
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1. It's an enormous event. Hope everyone there will have sufficient security,
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 01:48 PM by Judi Lynn
since there are so many valuable, precious people in one area at the same time.

This is a great article. Hope the conference will be tremendously successful, productive, and a great beginning for the countries and everyone concerned.

This new idea becomes real starting today.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:48 PM
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2. Recommend.
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:12 PM
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3. Very cutting edge, the future with everyone's voice nt
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:06 PM
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4. The AFP headline on this is ...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hHicbHcaDKGwhhcsi4hDkl8vQZZg">"Eco-activists mass for alternative climate summit in Bolivia"

... at least they gave it some coverage
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:00 PM
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5. K&R! Very important conference! Pachama needs our help! nt
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:47 PM
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6. Hard to tell who co-existed when in the Amazon jungle
The tribes living in the Amazon jungle don't have any unique properties which make them more environmentally sensitive than anybody else. They don't destroy the environment as bad as we do because they were wiped out by diseases brought by Europeans to the Americas, and now they're kept hemmed in by you all.

If you read this month's Scientific American you can find an article about the Amazon civilization which existed prior to the European's arrival. They were cutting trees down, digging canals, moving dirt around, and doing so with more and more effectiveness as their population increased. Which means that, if Europeans hadn't arrived when they did, the Amazon would probably look like Easter Island (one of those places where placid primitive natives destroyed their habitat and ended up eating each other because they could).

You guys need to be less naive. All of us homo sapiens are the same. And this means we are really the same. Given the chance and a bit of luck, those peaceful natives you glorify so much would have invented gun powder, invaded Europe in the year 430 BCE, wiped out their civilization, and today would be posting on their internet in guarani about the environmental connectedness of primitive German tribesmen living in the Black Forest.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:44 PM
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7. do you really expect any sane person to accept these ridiculous comments?
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:01 AM
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8. OK subsuelo, then you tell me
Do you really think those natives are different from us? They have some sort of magical DNA mutation? Either you beleive in equality of all peoples or you don't. Given what we do to the environment, and destroying the environment is something all of us do, without exception, then there's no reason to think these guys have any unique characteristics, other than the circumstances dealt them a bad card - they were killed off by disease and fell into a disadvantaged position.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:23 PM
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9. Bouncing off the wall nutty. It's an embarrassment to acknowledge you've read them!
They simply must stay awake at night trying to devise new angles of attack to justify inhuman, amoral, contemptible behavior.
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:41 PM
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10. Calm down
You have cognitive bias. Now go take a cup of tea, visit the public library to get a book about the environmental disaster natives caused on Easter Island. I suggest you read books by Jared Diamond, the white supremacist from the University of California at Berkeley :p
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