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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 07:55 AM
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Looks like Aristide to return to Haiti. Haitian gov't "ready" to issue him passport.
Edited on Tue Feb-01-11 08:05 AM by Peace Patriot
Just got this news from an Aquart post in GD, source: Al Jazeera 2/1/11

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/02/2011217025580425.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x319635

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Haiti's government has said it was ready to issue a new passport to Jean-Bertrand Aristide, former president, to would allow him to return to his country after almost seven years in exile in South Africa.

"The government will give assurances that as soon as it receives such a request, it will be swiftly granted," the information ministry said in a statement on Monday.

"It is my understanding that the Council of Ministers has agreed to issue a diplomatic passport to Aristide befitting his position as a former president of the republic," said Ira Kurzban, Aristide’s Miami-based lawyer.

"I kindly request that the government of the Republic of Haiti initiate dialogue with the government of the Republic of South Africa to ensure Aristide's immediate return," said Kurzban.
--Al Jazeera

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Edit: I misread, and said passport had been granted in OP title. Passport not yet granted, but it looks like it's about to be. Some confusion about whether he needs one or not. Looks like Aristide and his lawyers want to dot every i, cross every t. Not give anybody (ahem, the U.S.) an excuse to give him trouble along the way or once he returns? (U.S. military controls Haitian airport.)
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 08:01 AM
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1. Hil is not going to like this.






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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 08:44 AM
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2. excellent. maybe there is still time for him to run for president
and then the US can pull out.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 07:44 AM
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9. Pity the poor U.S. which would so-o-o like to pull out of Haiti but just can't seem to.
:sarcasm:
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:10 AM
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10. actually and unfortunately, the US won't pull out is the issue
Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 09:11 AM by Bacchus39
so while I personally would be in favor of a US withdrawal and leaving Haiti to govern itself with Aristide or whoever, or giving it over to ALBA or other nations in the region (they won't take the responsibility), the fact is the US is committed to Haiti if at minimum to avoid mass starvation or mass violence.

so this continued US commitment will give you years or decades more worth of material to criticize the US. the fact is, Haiti will be nearly completely dependent on the international community for the foreseeable future.



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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 09:51 AM
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3. About F**king time.
This time send some troops to protect him.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:40 AM
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4. It'll be Dyncorp or Xe mercs who will "protect" him.
Maybe Hil will allow that.





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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:54 AM
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5. Let's hope not.
Hil is calling a meeting of all our ambassadors so they can have private talks without worrying about leaks. She has a lot on her plate right now, the peons are rebelling all over.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 04:00 PM
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7. He's going to need protection from those troops if we send them.
lol

Seriously, that must be a consideration for him. How many times do you tempt fate and expect to come out of it alive.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 02:14 PM
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6. It's being reported. I'll believe it when I see it. n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 05:04 PM
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8. I did a summary of my current theories about Haiti, here
Comment no. 3 (answer to JVS, comment no. 2) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x319635

I stumbled upon a Christian Science Monitor article (mentioned at the bottom of my comment there) that gives some hints that my guess is right, that Preval rebelled at something, likely to do with the $9 billion in aid that the U.S. is controlling, that's why the U.S. bumped his guy out of the election; Preval then contacted Aristide (part retaliation, partly to fulfill his promise to Haitians to bring Aristide back); the CIA was listening in and got "Baby Doc" to Haiti first, as warning/prevention. Or, alternative scenario (to the same point): Preval contacted Aristide (the result of a gradual buildup of resentment and insults--nothing specific), the CIA was listening, and that's why his candidate was bumped out, and "Baby Doc" was brought in--and now that it's clear that the U.S. ain't gonna be Preval/Celestin's friend, Preval's going through with it--is going to give Aristide a re-entry visa or valid passport.

The CSM bit says that Preval is out of favor cuz he's been maneuvering "behind the scenes." (LOL!) (And CSM buys it--God, they are so clueless.) (What could Preval have been maneuvering "behind the scenes" to DO, that would cause the U.S. to fall out with their puppet?)

Aristide very wisely wants a valid passport or re-entry visa, so he can't be stopped at the U.S. military-controlled airport. ("Baby Doc" didn't have one and just breezed right in--but that won't likely be the case with Aristide, who, unlike "Baby Doc," has harmed no one and is hugely popular.) He wants it to be a formal reception, no slip-up's, no treachery and no repression--cuz he's probably going to be met by a million cheering people.

If he returns, the U.S. plan to elect their "neo-liberal" candidate (Mirlande Manigat--"capitalism with a friendly face"), with only 25% of the Haitian people voting, and their "OAS" charade, is over and done with. There will have to be a new election, with Aristide and/or his Lavalas party on the ballot. (It is simply unconscionable that Lavalas--the majority party in Haiti--was banned from the election.) Preval probably sees himself as the "father" of this return--will probably angle to stay on, until the new election--and, if he can pull this off, all his incompetence and probable corruption will be forgiven/forgotten. (He'll land on his feet.) (--won't have to use that red helicopter.)

I was thinking about the exclusion of Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua--all with leftist (pro-clean elections) governments--and all other Latin American/Caribbean countries, except Jamaica--from Hillary's 'OAS' election team, which was made up of six people from the U.S., France and Canada (and the one Jamaican), and how the landscape of Latin American has changed, since the Bushwhacks ousted Aristide in 2004. Aristide has a lot more allies and potential allies now than he did back then. Why none of them were on an alleged 'OAS' election team is a mystery. But WE CAN BE SURE that they are watching this closely. Are they prepared to step in, with a REAL election team? Is somebody negotiating with Hillary (Dilma Rousseff maybe--who's got UN peacekeepers in Haiti?)

WHAT is going to happen with the $9 BILLION in U.S.-controlled aid, if Haiti takes a turn toward independence, and brings Aristide back as unifier or president, if the U.S. cannot be pressured to agree? The U.S. can cause horror and mayhem in Haiti (and has already botched the reconstruction). That is my fear about "Baby Doc"'s return, that it is INTENDED to cause horror and mayhem (or, at the very least, to threaten it). The CIA, the Pentagon and other entities (U.S. mercenaries) have had plenty of time and power to thoroughly infiltrate Haiti. Would Obama/Clinton dare do this? The Scumbag Congress certainly would and that's who Obama/Clinton have breathing down their necks.

Dicey situation.

Honduras is not a hopeful precedent (the last fraudulent election that Hillary arranged). And even if she learned a lesson with that--that the new Latin America will not bend over for that kind of crap any more, and needs to be treated with more respect--will the Scumbags behind the Scumbag Congress allow Haiti to assert its independence and have a real democracy? And will they not sabotage it, as the Bush Junta did, when they complete their Scumbag design and put the next Scumbag Junta in the White House?

The more I learn about this stuff, the more I am amazed that Cuba has survived, with a decent, independent, viable government in tact.



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