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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:38 AM
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Uribe adviser lied over DAS meetings: WikiLeaks
Uribe adviser lied over DAS meetings: WikiLeaks
Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:40
Edward Fox

A WikiLeaks cable says that Jose Obdulio Gaviria, then-adviser to ex-President Alvaro Uribe, secretly met with DAS officials in 2009 during a peak period in the wiretaps scandal, contradicting his public denial at the time.

Former U.S. Ambassador William Brownfield relays in a cable from May 22, 2009 that Gaviria privately admitted meeting with the security agency DAS's counterintelligence deputy Jorge Lagos and deputy intelligence chief Fernando Tabares to discuss the issue of illegal wiretapping operations to try and link Supreme Court magistrate Yesid Ramierz and drug-trafficker Ascensio Reyes.

Gaviria, however, denied to Brownfield having ordered that they carry out illegal operations, according to the cable.

Lagos testified on May 14, 2009, that Gaviria and Uribe's personal secretary Bernardo Moreno had ordered him to carry out illegal wiretaps, a claim Gaviria denied at the time, saying he had met only once with Lagos to discuss issues pertaining to other issues, and that it was an conspiracy being orchestrated by the opposition against the government.

More:
http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/14915-uribe-advisor-lied-publicly-wikileaks.html
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 08:35 AM
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1. This wikileaks cable agrees with my worldview, therefore it is true.
The ones that don't agree with my worldview are false.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:23 PM
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2. These articles shouldn't start with "A Wikileaks cable says...," but with....
..."Bush Junta-appointed, lying scumbag William Brownfield says, in a cable released by Wikileaks..." (Ahem.) Like that. They should clarify that just because it's a Wikileaks cable doesn't make it true. The cable writers have agendas. Some of them have trackable histories. They may be thickly involved in crimes, cover ups and corruption themselves. They may be laying a low security cable paper trail for some reason (possibly even TO be leaked).

In the case of this cable, by Brownfield, we know he has a history of actions aimed at protecting Bush tool Alvaro Uribe and U.S. military personnel and 'contractors.' For instance, he connived with Uribe to extradite death squad witnesses to the U.S. on mere drug charges, where they were "buried" in the U.S. federal prison system--out of the reach of Colombian prosecutors and over their objections--by compete sealing of their cases in U.S. federal court in Washington DC. He also connived with Uribe, during the same period (2009) on a secretly negotiated U.S./Colombia military agreement that put Uribe's signature on total diplomatic immunity for all U.S. military personnel and all U.S. military 'contractors' in Colombia. (This was followed later by the U.S. State Department "fining" Blackwater for what it said were "unauthorized" "trainings" of "foreign persons" IN COLOMBIA "for use in Iraq and Afghanistan.")

Also, elevated by the Obama administration to top diplomat for the western hemisphere, Brownfield very likely had a hand in spiriting the chief spying witness against Uribe out of Colombia, with instant asylum given to her in the U.S. client state of Panama--also over the objections of Colombian prosecutors.

The first possibility that springs to mind for Brownfield to shaft Jose Obdulio Gaviria in a cable is that Brownfield was identifying threats to Uribe, to Washington, where they were likely compiling of list of dangers to their boy (and danger to U.S. personnel committing crimes in Colombia). This could also be blackmail material that Brownfield is conveying, to control Obdulio Gaviria.

This statement by Brownfield is also interesting: "Gaviria, however, denied to Brownfield having ordered that they carry out illegal operations, according to the cable."

Consider this: The U.S./Bush Junta was very likely aiding and abetting Uribe's spying operations--particularly if it is true, as I have surmised, that Uribe's primary job, as a Bush Cartel "made man," was to consolidate the trillion-plus dollar cocaine revenue stream into fewer hands. Now re-read Brownfield's sentence--that Gaviria "denied" ordering illegal spying. If the cable was meant to be leaked, then it successfully portrays Brownfield/U.S. Bush Junta as some kind of innocent party in Colombia--a sort of "judge" hearing others' disclosures and denials. The whole thing--the whole cable--in other words may be theatrical, with Brownfield pretending to care whether or not Gaviria committed illegal acts or perjury.

If you understand that Uribe was running the Colombian government as a criminal operation--with massive crimes on many fronts--death squads (thousands of trade unionists, human rights workers, peasant farmers, political leftists and others murdered), massive land theft (5 million peasants displaced from their farms), bribery, ponzi schemes, election fraud, and numerous ties between Uribe and his cohorts with drug trafficking--all of it under the cover of the U.S. "war on drugs" and on our dime ($7 BILLION!)--then it puts a new and enlightening coloration both on the actions of the U.S. government and the actions and cables of its ambassador.

We're in full coverup mode now, as to Uribe's and U.S. crimes in Colombia, with the Obama administration (including CIA head Panetta, a pal of Daddy Bush) actively erasing this crime trail. But the Wikileaks cables are quite interesting as bread crumbs. We should not take them at face value but they do point to the key issues.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:47 PM
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3. I wonder if anyone in the State Department can even take Brownfield at face value!
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 03:48 PM by Judi Lynn
He does create a sensation everywhere he goes, by all means.


Brownfield, getting the hell out of Dodge after being chased away from a Little League game in Caracas where he made an impromptu appearance, expecting to hand out baseball gifties to the kiddies, to step back and receive their tiny hugs and kisses, only to be nearly tarred and feathered, instead, as parents ran and jumped on their motorcycles, after acquiring some eggs from a nearby grocery store, and giving his car a good coating of egg goo.

Brownfield was a real Bush team player, wasn't he? He was tailor made for the work he was assigned.

Thank you so much for this outstanding post. It should have a copyright mark attached to it.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 04:20 PM
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4. Wonders never cease! Gaviria, Uribe's advisor, is a cousin to Pablo Escobar! Jeez.
Pablo Escobar’s family still disturbing Colombia
Friday, 29 May 2009 15:41
Sebastian Castaneda

~snip~
The scam of Pablo Escobar Jr. could have been very easily deciphered without the widespread media scrutiny that this individual has attracted in the US and Colombia. Such lack of journalistic professionalism has only played in the hands of these sketchy individuals. Everyone should know that Escobar’s genes lead to more sinister acts as Jose Obdulio Gaviria, Pablo Escobar’s cousin has demonstrated.

Gaviria, who until recently was president Uribe’s closest assessor, has been allegedly behind the illegal wiretapping by the Colombian security agency (DAS) to the opposition, judges and journalists. Yet, he cannot be investigated by the Inspector General because he was never a government official. Incidentally, Alvaro Uribe’s genealogy also links him to Pablo Escobar, although this goes back six generations.


http://colombiareports.com/opinion/117-cantonese-arepas/4285-pablo-escobars-family-still-disturbing-colombia.html

Un-freaking- believable. Figures.
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