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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:13 PM
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Chávez reports on detention of some people involved in assassination plot
CARACAS, Thursday September 11, 2008
Chávez reports on detention of some people involved in assassination plot

Several militaries who were scheming against Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, as denounced by the very head of state on Wednesday evening, have been detained, but neither the number nor the names were disclosed.

"There are several detainees and the Defense Minister (Gustavo Rangel) has ordered to open an investigation through the military Attorney General Office," said Chávez during a rally with supporters held in Caracas, Efe reported.

Chávez ordered to air his remarks in an obligatory simultaneous broadcast, including a tape-recording where presumably three high-ranking retired army officers talk about the plot.

The decision for the broadcast, according to Chávez, came because the private media failed to release in their Thursday's editions the news about the uncovered plot.

The head of state said again that the plans to kill or topple him were authored by the US government, with the help of wealthy Venezuelans, nicknamed by him "US cronies."

http://english.eluniversal.com/2008/09/11/en_pol_art_chavez-reports-on-de_11A1981175.shtml
(Venezuelan opposition newspaper)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:27 PM
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1. Good god. Not again.
These Bush bastards won't be happy until they break the all the crockery and sell the silver.

Four months to go. :(
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 03:01 PM
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2. I don't know, Sfexpat2000. Did you see where McBush was raging against Chavez
and his "dangerous despotism" the other day? I tend to think the South Americans are going to win this struggle, but we are not. They have transparent elections. We do not. It may be that simple. While they move onto to their South American "Common Market," and the prosperity and social progress that they so well deserve, and have worked so hard for, for so long, we are more likely to become the biggest "banana republic" on earth.

The Bushwhacks can cause a lot of suffering and grief--as we saw this week, with Bush forces in Bolivia machine-gunning 15 peasant farmers--on their death and mayhem path to U.S. global corporate predator rule. But the most I think they can abscond with, in South America, is possibly Zulia (oil rich Venezuelan state on the Caribbean), and that will cause the final, permanent breach between the northern and southern halves of our hemisphere. I think that's their plan. They wouldn't mind having a fascist mini-state in the heart of South America (the Bolivian secessionsts), but it's not really feasible. Brazil and Argentina won't permit it, for one thing. It's just a chaos-maker, a distraction. Venezuela is the real target (and Ecuador). And Zulia, the Venezuelan state on the Caribbean, is the most feasible target. (Correa says they have a civil war plot there, as well as in Ecuador's oil region.) That is likely why the Bushwhacks reconstituted the 4th Fleet, now roaming off Zulia's coast. They may intend to carve out a leftist-free zone in the Caribbean/Central America. Gaining control of Zulia's oil would provide them with a powerful weapon to that end. It's vulnerable--virtually undefended (vis a vis the U.S. military)--but, once grabbed, very defensible with enough fire power, and especially with Colombia on its border. (This is probably why Chavez invited the Russians to naval maneuvers in the Caribbean--it's a warn-off, re Zulia.)

Honduras, El Salvador, Panama--all going leftist, like Nicaragua. But Central America doesn't yet have the cohesion that the left has in South America. There are still many ways that the Bushfucks can hex those elections and governments. And making it a war zone re Zulia would aid them in turning back the leftist tide that is running all the way up to our border. (Guatemala just elected a leftist--not a way left Bolivarian (that I know of) but in sympathy with their social justice goals; and Mexico could well elect a leftist next time around.) Securing this region (Caribbean/Central America) for global corporate predation is very likely the ultimate goal of the Bushites (even as their proxies try to tear Bolivia to pieces), and McBush and his Lipstick are/will be fully supportive. They will use the 4th Fleet to take Zulia if it's not accomplished before January. (Likely scenario: local fascist cabal declares its "independence" from the Chavez government; enter Blackwater and rightwing death squads from Colombia; chaos ensues; the "independence lovers" request U.S. military assistance; Venezuela's military can't hold the province; game over.)

Obama, I don't know. His demagoguery on South America is not as bad as the Bushites, and he has introduced a new idea--"talking to our enemies." ("Our" = Exxon Mobil. "Our enemies" = Exxon Mobil's enemies.) That might work--since the South Americans are all democrats with a small d (excepting Colombia). They want peace. They want prosperity. They want social justice. They want their sovereignty respected. And Obama is more likely to see some separation (not a lot, but some) between Exxon Mobil's interests and those of the rest of us. I do think it's a possibility that the Corpos might let him win, because their situation in South America has been so eroded by Bushwhack policy. The World Bank/IMF out. Exxon Mobil out. The corrupt, failed, murderous U.S. "war on drugs" on its way out. The corrupt rightwing elite out (except in Colombia). Good government in. South America forming a "Common Market" (without the U.S.). And nothing the Corpos can do about it, short of war, cuz the PEOPLE count all the votes in South America. And war starts getting really bad for business, after a while.

Maybe we can outvote the machines--another possibility, but a remote one. The bad guys own the machines. They can install whomever they want. So it's up to them: Do they want back into South America on its newly level playing field? Or do they want to violently secure the Caribbean and "circle the wagons"? It's pretty clear what the Bushwhacks want. It's not so clear what their Corpo backers want (or think is feasible)--although their 'news' monopolies have been thoroughgoing propaganda machines in the preliminaries to Oil War II-South America.

And we, the people of the U.S.? We are without power in our own land, unable to stop the massive looting of our treasuries, the shredding of our Constitution and the hijacking of our military for Corpo resource wars. We stand helplessly by, as we are turned into a "banana republic." And I think it's going to be a long time before we are able to reverse this fascist/Corpo coup, even if we manage to elect Obama, and the Corpos, who own and control our voting machines, permit it. We will win the struggle here, in the end. Democracy cannot die here, if it lives in our hearts--and that it does. Of that I am sure. But it will take time.
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