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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:33 PM
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White House Response to Cheney
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 09:35 PM by jenmito
There has been a lot of discussion online and in the mainstream media about our response to various critics of the President, specifically former Vice President Cheney, who have been coming out of the woodwork since the incident on Christmas Day. I think we all agree that there should be honest debate about these issues, but it is telling that Vice President Cheney and others seem to be more focused on criticizing the Administration than condemning the attackers. Unfortunately too many are engaged in the typical Washington game of pointing fingers and making political hay, instead of working together to find solutions to make our country safer.

First, it’s important that the substantive context be clear: for seven years after 9/11, while our national security was overwhelmingly focused on Iraq – a country that had no al Qaeda presence before our invasion – Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda's leadership was able to set up camp in the border region of Pakistan and Afghanistan, where they continued to plot attacks against the United States. Meanwhile, al Qaeda also regenerated in places like Yemen and Somalia, establishing new safe-havens that have grown over a period of years. It was President Obama who finally implemented a strategy of winding down the war in Iraq, and actually focusing our resources on the war against al Qaeda – more than doubling our troops in Afghanistan, and building partnerships to target al Qaeda’s safe-havens in Yemen and Somalia. And in less than one year, we have already seen many al Qaeda leaders taken out, our alliances strengthened, and the pressure on al Qaeda increased worldwide.

To put it simply: this President is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the President.
The Same Old Washington Blame Game

Second, the former Vice President makes the clearly untrue claim that the President – who is this nation’s Commander-in-Chief – needs to realize we are at War. I don’t think anyone realizes this very hard reality more than President Obama. In his inaugural, the President said “our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred.” In a recent speech, Assistant to the President for Terrorism and Homeland Security John Brennan said “Instead, as the president has made clear, we are at war with al-Qaida, which attacked us on 9/11 and killed 3,000 people. We are at war with its violent extremist allies who seek to carry on al-Qaida’s murderous agenda. These are the terrorists we will destroy; these are the extremists we will defeat.” At West Point, the President told the nation why it was “in our vital national interest” to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to fight the war in Afghanistan, adding that as Commander in Chief, “I see firsthand the terrible wages of war.” And at Oslo, in accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, the President said, “We are at war, and I am responsible for the deployment of thousands of young Americans to battle in a distant land.”

There are numerous other such public statements that explicitly state we are at war. The difference is this: President Obama doesn’t need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last Administration – we are not at war with a tactic (“terrorism”), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/12/30/same-old-washington-blame-game

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:44 PM
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1. Thanks jenmito..I've read this
but I think it bears repeating.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:57 PM
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4. Oops. Was it posted HERE?
Sorry if so.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:04 PM
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10. Yes, but that's
okay..like I said it needs to be out there. cheney sure is getting his lies spread.

Have you seen our homeboy's Rep Eric Massa retort to cheney?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=388x9751
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:57 PM
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14. Did you know Politico called Cheney to ask his opinion of this whole thing?
Mike Allen was on Morning Joe this morning and said so. And yeah, I saw him on Ed's show tonight! He was great!
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:46 PM
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2. One word. Demi-word,actually, suffices: Meh. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:57 PM
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5. Why?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:58 PM
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6. That is all that Cheney deserves n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:01 PM
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7. I think he deserves much worse than that.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:03 PM
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8. Giving him any attention is no punishment n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:00 PM
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15. I think the strong response was perfect and necessary. n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:03 PM
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9. I thought it was terrific - thanks, Jen
:shrug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:00 PM
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16. Thanks, Adelante.
:hi:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:47 PM
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3. "Suck it!"
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 09:47 PM by Clio the Leo
.... that's the shortened version for those who don't want to read the whole thing ... they said "Suck it!" :)
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:08 PM
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11. Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.,
:fistbump:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:02 PM
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17. I agree.
:fistbump:
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:12 PM
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12. K&R
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NJGeek Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:45 PM
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13. nice
good retort
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:30 AM
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18. Remember "rapid response" from the campaign? I'm SO glad they still have the knack...
... because the WH just cannot let the lies of Cheney or anyone else in the RW gain traction by ignoring them. That's partly how John Kerry was undone by the Swiftboat Liars -- he tried to rise above it, and by the time he responded they had managed to capture all the attention of the MSM.

Tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and skewer the bastards with their own records. As "Give 'em Hell" Harry Truman said, "I just tell the truth and they think it's hell."

> To put it simply: this President is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the President. <

Hekate

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:59 AM
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19. Yup! At first they thought nobody would take Cheney seriously,
but they noticed that once Cheney says something negative about Obama, other Repubs. start repeating it.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:52 PM
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20. All the RW liars should get exposed so rigorously!
ALL of them!

this President is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the President.


now, if only the damned Flying Monkeys Media would notice....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:21 PM
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21. I know...
if only the media would even just read this rebuttal to Cheney as often as they read Cheney's statement. But they don't, because it would be exposing their own failure!
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 08:05 PM
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23. yep
the mediocre media drives me crazy--always has. But what they've turned into since Reagan's time, once he dumped Fairness Laws (and no, I don't have a deep understanding of that; I'm no policy or political scholar) is just unbearable.

Underestimating the relationship between ever more frivolous teevee and intellectual stagnation is a big mistake. I think the impact is way bigger than we generally realize -- even as big as degrading fundamental processes such as concept formation of self and of the outer world, curiosity levels, social interpretation.... just way more than I'm able to put into words.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:28 PM
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22. That response is deeply satisfying
And very well written. I'm sure the Cheney family feels the sharp left jab to the jaw in it.
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