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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:50 AM
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Jonathan Gruber Failed to Disclose His $392,600 Contracts with HHS
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/01/07/jonathan-grubers-rent-a-scholarship/

By: emptywheel Thursday January 7, 2010 8:35 pm


"MIT health economist Jonathan Gruber has been the go-to source that all the health care bill apologists point to to defend otherwise dubious arguments. But he has consistently failed to disclose that he has had a sole-source contract with the Department of Health and Human Services since June 19, 2009 to consult on the “President’s health reform proposal.”

...But none of the references to Gruber I’ve seen have revealed that Gruber has a $297,600 contract with HHS to produce,

a technical memorandum on the estimated changes in health insurance coverage and associated costs and impacts to the government under alternative specifications of health system reform. The requirement includes developing estimates of various health reform proposals on health insurance coverage and cost. The alternative specifications to be considered will be derived from the President’s health reform proposal.

(h/t Mote Dai)

The President’s health reform proposal? But I thought this was the Senate’s health reform proposal?!?!? (wink!)"



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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:55 AM
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1. Late Night: Color Me Gruber
http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/08/late-night-color-me-gruber/

"Needless to say, I have been reading a lot about MIT “health economist” and (now it can be revealed!) government contractor Jonathan Gruber (maybe you have, too), and I must tell you, this one really disappoints me.

...So, this Gruber scandal disappoints. Let me focus on one example.

Remember, back in November, when everyone inside the Beltway was all a-twitter (in both senses of the phrase) about how Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, was making practically every White House staffer read an Atlantic article by Ron Brownstein? That piece, touting what FDL’s own Jon Walker called “free market economagic,” relied heavily on the work of Jonathan Gruber—then billed as “a leading health economist at MIT,” now well-understood to be a super-remunerated contractor in the employ of several parts of the Obama Administration.


...Along with Rahm letting everybody know he was letting everybody know, OMB Director Peter Orszag got on the White House blog to push the Brownstein article and an op-ed that Orszag penned for the Washington Post that touted a letter he co-signed with Jonathan Gruber. Orszag and Gruber go back a ways–years earlier, Orszag worked with Gruber to co-write at least two papers for a Boston College think tank called the Center for Retirement Research.

Rahm didn’t leak that Gruber worked for the administration. Gruber didn’t tell Brownstein that he worked for the administration. Orszag doesn’t disclose his prior relationship with Gruber..."



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Gravel Democrat Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 02:48 AM
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22. Rahm Emanuel conflict of interest award


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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:55 AM
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32. Yes, nice pic :) n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:57 AM
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2. Jonathan Gruber = Armstrong Williams
Seriously, we were up in arms here when it was revealed that Williams was on the take from the Bush admin. to push NCLB as an "independent expert". Why is this any different?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:04 AM
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4. Yes I do, maybe someone can explain the difference. n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:07 AM
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6. No, Williams was supposed to be an independent reporter
Not an independent expert. Completely different.

Universities hardly ever disclose their federal funds when doing studies and reports, but I agree that they should.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:15 AM
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9. Jonathan Gruber has written op-eds on the topic of health care.
Which may not put him in the reporter category but definitely puts him in the realm of journalism. Editorials are expected to disclose conflicts of interest too.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:28 AM
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11. No, op-eds are not the same as reporting either
One op-ed way back in July. Yes Gruber was wrong, but to compare it to Williams, more proof you'll say anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/09/pageoneplus/corrections.html?scp=1&sq=gruber&st=cse
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:35 AM
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13. From your link ...
"Corrections
January 9, 2010
EDITORS' NOTE

On July 12, the Op-Ed page published an article by Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at M.I.T., on health insurance and taxation. On Friday, Professor Gruber confirmed reports that he is a paid consultant to the Department of Health and Human Services, and that his contract was in effect when he published his article. The article did not disclose this relationship to readers.

Like other writers for the Op-Ed page, Professor Gruber signed a contract that obligated him to tell editors of such a relationship. Had editors been aware of Professor Gruber’s government ties, the Op-Ed page would have insisted on disclosure or not published his article. (Go to Article)"



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:37 AM
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15. "One op-ed way back in July"
Is that not what I said? This is about one op-ed way back in July.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:09 PM
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34. No it is not - posts on the WH blog and other stories as well, read the DK diary ...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/8/822994/-Jonathan-Gruber-Didnt-Disclose-He-Was-Paid-$392,000-by-HHS!

"...Here are the links to articles written in the past eight months by Jonathan Gruber, in which he didn't disclose his being paid by the HHS agency within the Obama administration.

...Dr. Gruber, has been quoted extensively by the White House as an 'objective voice' on health care reform. He also has been cited five times on the White House blog..."

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:15 PM
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44. He should have disclosed his pay
every step of the way. But much of what is in that blog is misrepresented and some incorrect. As ProSense posted, Gruber did disclose his pay many times, including to the Boston Globe. Also, he didn't produce numbers, the CBO did. Finally, he's a lifelong expert on the subject, not a propagandist like Armstrong Williams. To compare the two is like comparing Obama to Bush.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:57 PM
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47. He disclosed it to the New England Journal of Medicine but not the WaPo for articles
He told the NEJM because there would have been serious professional ramifications if he didn't. He was ethically obliged to tell the WaPo about it when he wrote editorials for them. He didn't. True, it was also their obligation to vet him and disclose any conflicts. And the CBO didn't produce the numbers, the JCT did, based largely on his models. In a way Gruber is worse than Armstrong Williams because he is a respected economist.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:58 AM
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3. This is a conflict of interest, how exactly?
Please explain.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:12 AM
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7. Gruber is regularly cited as an independent health care expert
When his contract with the WH is not disclosed it lends to the perception. There's nothing inherently wrong with him working for the Obama administration and nothing wrong with him expressing his opinions. But you and I both know that if every op-ed he wrote and every statement he was quoted on came with the disclaimer that he was a paid consultant for the administration it would put those statements in a different light.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:26 AM
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10. Being paid to promote the HC bill and paid by the government. There have ...
been several posts on this forum about his work, but I do not remember them citing his contract with the government.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:05 AM
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5. Never heard of Jonathan Gruber
But a university should disclose when they're getting money to do federal studies.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:15 AM
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8. Another failed FDL attempt to distort.
Maybe they need to become familiar with Gruber's views dating back to 1994.

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:32 AM
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12. Not just FDL - try again ...
http://www.boston.com/news/health/blog/2010/01/mit_economist_g.html

"...Gruber has not disclosed the details of his relationship with the administration in many instances and his failure to do so became the talk of Washington bloggers today, after news of his two contracts with the US Department of Health and Human Services first surfaced on the DailyKos and Politico. Gruber is being paid to analyze the costs and effects of various health reform proposals.

For example, he wrote an Op-Ed piece last month in the Washinton Post on a proposed tax on high-cost health insurance plans and was quoted in an online Atlantic Monthly article in November, and in neither case was his tie to the administration disclosed. Gruber, however, did disclose his paid work for the administration in a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine..."

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:36 AM
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14. They are reporting on the accusation, which even that story proves bogus
In a phone interview with the Globe today, Gruber said that he never attempted to hide his government contracts and in fact disclosed them whenever he was asked by reporters. But he said he could only recall three or four instances in the past year when reporters even asked him whether he was under contract with the Obama administration.

"Generally they don't ask and I don't think it's an issue," Gruber said. "I understand the concern, that people who don't know me think, 'Gee, his opinion can be bought.' "

Gruber said the health care issues he has been widely quoted on recently are views he has held for 20 years, such as the impact of health insurance laws on wages. "That was my PhD thesis 20 years ago," he said. "I don't know how you could claim that that position was influenced by a contract 17 years later."

Gruber disclosed to a Globe reporter last year that he was a consultant for the administration and the Globe has described him in stories as an advisor to the administration, but the details of his paid consulting work had not previously been reported.


He's an expert on the subject.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:44 AM
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16. He's an expert with a $400K contract with the WH.
That's something he should disclose without being asked. It's disgusting that you are defending this. Predictable, though.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:49 AM
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17. Character assassinations are all the critics have. The man has held these views for decades.
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 01:50 AM by ProSense
He was hired as an expert on the issue, not the other way around, as the distortions are trying to imply.

Gruber

I do indeed have a contract with HHS. Throughout this year I have provided technical assistance to the administration and to Congress with my micro-simulation model, as well as based on my experience as a member of the Massachusetts health connector board. But NONE of the work I have done in public, or any public declarations I ahve made, has been in any way funded by the Administration. That funding was strictly for internal work that I did for the administration and, via the administration, for congress. All externally visible work and comments, such as my editorials or public reports, have been done on my own time.

Moreover, at no time have I publicly advocated a position that I did not firmly believe - indeed, I have been completely consistent with my academic track record. On the two issues this article raises:

1) I am known in economics as one of the leading experts on the impact of health insurance costs on wages - indeed, I wrote my thesis on that topic and have written extensively since on the fact that health insurance costs are fully translated into wages. I was asked by the editors of the Handbook of Health Economics, a review of literature in this area, to write the review article on this topic.

2) In my role as a member of the MA Health Connector board, I had to help decide what were affordable subsidies for our citizens. I was surprised to find how little work there was on this topic so I undertook a study to help lay out what might be considered affordable. I have since replicated that analysis at the federal level. Every position I have advocated on this topic is completely consistent with these reports.






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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:51 AM
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18. I'm sure Armstrong Williams has been consistent about his views on education too. eom
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:52 AM
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19. Dumb. n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 01:58 AM
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20. Yeah it is dumb to think no one would discover such a blatant conflict of interest. eom
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 08:08 AM
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23. Not to mention the fact that he clearly outlines where he gets his theory...
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 08:09 AM by Clio the Leo
.... here...

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:sKQUHcyvVGgJ:econ-www.mit.edu/files/4845+joint+tax+committee+October+13th,+2009&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiUGj71aXXuIvDUlpoVM5mcFE8r2dYQi5--XjT8Yx_1ZShgh9T-D5mOn3V8daj35ZDlTqeCv7JUnLk5evMqapYIxGPQ_MXgeF4UabYf6ekrFqSrXp3fPCtu68xEPBSUDhMOWxaM&sig=AHIEtbRPBS9fsZIi6VFGrqO35yR3CSJGQA

.... using documents produced by the Joint Tax Committee which, last I checked, was not privately contracted by the admin (unless Obama has somehow managed to change the Constitution merging the executive and federal branches.)

http://www.jct.gov/

Anyone can read what he wrote using the reports he used and come to their own conclusions. It's a Saturday ... I encourage everyone to give it a go.

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:43 AM
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27. So? There's no reason for him not to disclose his contract with the WH.
When Armstrong Williams promoted NCLB while under a paid contract to the Bush WH we were up in arms about it, though Williams also claimed that his views were consistent and independently researched.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:53 AM
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31. Gruber knows his economics/health care policy shit.
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 11:57 AM by jefferson_dem
This trumped-up accusation is plain silly ... and says much more about those trumpeting the faux outrage that it does about Gruber, or anyone else. They. Got. Nuthin'.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:18 PM
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35. Well then there's no problem with everyone knowing he's a paid adviser, is there?
And from now on every time he's quoted it will be with that disclaimer. No biggie, right? :shrug:
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 02:05 AM
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21. You are correct.
We have some people in serious denial here.

They remind me of the Bush sheeple. They have stopped thinking.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 08:16 AM
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:42 AM
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26. It appears a poster on Daily Kos mentioned this first ...
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 11:42 AM by slipslidingaway
and then from this comment, slinkerwink posted the diary linked at the bottom of this post.

There is mention of the DK diary on FDL, although some would rather attack FDL.



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/01/on-jonathan-gruber-and-disclosure.html

"...Gruber's nearly $400,000 contract with the Obama administration seems to have first been noticed by a citizen-journalist-blogger, Mote Date at Daily Kos..."



http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2010/1/7/131856/1847/73#c73

"The "fix was in" long ago for this tax (37+ / 0-)

The administration long ago knew it was going to rely on this tax in conjunction with healthcare reform. Jonathan Gruber was awarded a sole source contract for almost $300,000 for " technical assistance in evaluating options for national healthcare reform."

Gruber is a well known and very public advocate for the excise tax. The contract started in June and the expected period of performance was for 8 months. So he is still on this contract. I guess one question would be is if this sole source award included funds for "outreach" such as TV appearances or writing columns in support of his recommendations.

---Here is the description of the contract:

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation (ASPE), intends to negotiate with Jonathan Gruber, Ph.D. on a sole sources basis for technical assistance in evaluating options for national healthcare reform. The basis for restricting competition is the authority of 41 USC 253(c)(1) 106-1(b) because there is only one responsible source and no other supplies or services will satisfy DHHS requirements. The anticipated contract period will be eight months.

ASPE requires a technical memorandum on the estimated changes in health insurance coverage and associated costs and impacts to the government under alternative specifications of health system reform. The requirement includes developing estimates of various health reform proposals on health insurance coverage and cost. The alternative specifications to be considered will be derived from the President’s health reform proposal. This project is a continuation of work that Dr. Gruber is currnetly providing for ASPE..."



UPDATE: Jonathan Gruber Didn't Disclose He Was Paid $392,000 by HHS! Fri Jan 08, 2010 at 08:33:09 AM PST

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/8/822994/-Jonathan-Gruber-Didnt-Disclose-He-Was-Paid-$392,000-by-HHS!



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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:44 AM
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28. OOPS.
There goes another one of your favorite Cut & Paste sources for spamming DU with Pro-Health Insurance Industry propaganda.

Did you know he was being paid (well paid!) by the White House?
or are you as surprised as everybody else?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:23 PM
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36. ProSense, you will be disclosing Gruber's status as a paid advisor to the WH from now on, won't you?
Because that's what reporters are going to be doing from now on. When you cut and paste things from this "renowned expert" be sure to cut and paste the disclaimer as well. It'll just save the rest of us the trouble of having to do it.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 10:32 AM
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25. The people defending this dishonesty
are people who do the same thing here all the time. The disregard for the truth, for honest and clear dealings is getting to be tiresome. Hard to deal with an administration that does this kind of thing while pointing fingers at others for being 'sinners' unworthy of basic human rights. The hypocrisy just gets to me.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #25
43. Thanks and I agree this is hard to defend. n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:50 AM
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29. From slinkerwink's diary at Daily Kos - Posted by Nancy-Ann DeParle
Edited on Sat Jan-09-10 12:39 PM by slipslidingaway
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/8/822994/-Jonathan-Gruber-Didnt-Disclose-He-Was-Paid-$392,000-by-HHS!

"...Dr. Gruber, has been quoted extensively by the White House as an 'objective voice' on health care reform. He also has been cited five times on the White House blog..."


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/11/29/mit-economist-confirms-senate-health-reform-bill-reduces-costs-and-improves-coverage

The White House Blog

MIT Economist Confirms Senate Health Reform Bill Reduces Costs and Improves Coverage

Posted by Nancy-Ann DeParle on November 29, 2009 at 03:14 PM EST


"Jonathan Gruber, PhD, a MIT Economist who has been closely following the health insurance reform process, issued a compelling new report based on data from the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office. As the Politico wrote, "The report concludes that under the Senate’s health-reform bill, Americans buying individual coverage will pay less than they do for today's typical individual market coverage, and would be protected from high out-of-pocket costs." Here are some key points:

Nancy-Ann DeParle is Director of the White House Office of Health Reform




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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #29
38. He has been "closely following the health insurance reform process"
Yeah, I'll say he has. :wow:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:43 PM
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41. And no mention that there is a financial agreement :( added the WH link above...
thanks.

:)

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:51 AM
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30. Lame red herring...
FDL's dramatic write-up is funny - "MIT health economist Jonathan Gruber has been the go-to source that all the health care bill apologists point to to defend otherwise dubious arguments..."

Cue ominous-sounding music: "Da da da daaaaaaaaa...."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:03 PM
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33. Daily Kos had the first diary from what I can tell and the WH site mentions ...
Gruber as an objective voice as noted below. Go to the links and read what is said, no mention of payment for his analysis, which may or may not be correct.

Do you think the WH should disclose the fact that he was being paid?

We would never buy this stuff from the Republicans and we should not from our own Party, we would never accept mandating the purchase of private insurance if it was prposed by the Repubs. But for reason it is all OK now.

:(

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/8/822994/-Jonathan-Gruber-Didnt-Disclose-He-Was-Paid-$392,000-by-HHS!

"...Here are the links to articles written in the past eight months by Jonathan Gruber, in which he didn't disclose his being paid by the HHS agency within the Obama administration....


"Dr. Gruber, has been quoted extensively by the White House as an 'objective voice' on health care reform. He also has been cited five times on the White House blog."


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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. So from now on there will be a disclaimer every time Gruber is quoted
No biggie, right? I mean he's such an awesome independent expert and everything that a mere little truthful statement about him being a paid adviser to the Obama admin. accompanying every quote of his won't affect his credibility in the eyes of the public at all. That's all that's probably going to happen, jefferson. No one's going to be fired and Gruber will continue to be cited by his friend Peter Orszag. Only this time when reporters quote it there will be a disclaimer.

So what is there for you to be upset about?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. I think the WH should also disclose the financial arrangement when they
refer to his articles on the WH site.

:shrug:

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Oh yeah. That press release you quoted from DK above. Wow!
That's just straight up lying by the administration. I do not like be lied to, no matter which party is doing it. And for people to sit here and act like it's nothing is astonishing.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 12:48 PM
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42. Totally agree, if people would have objected under a Repub, they should...
object now.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 03:19 PM
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45. Lying, cheating, stealing, even murder are just fine as long as it's "our" guys doing it.
When "they" do it, it is clearly wrong, even criminal.
:rofl:


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 05:30 PM
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46. The corrupt defender of the Senate's HCR
Why am I not surprised! We got the best government that the corporations can buy.
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