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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:51 AM
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Bill Clinton and Blago's racist comments were more racist, but the media/GOP will only focus on Reid
Bill Clinton and Blago's racist comments were more racist, but the media/GOP will only focus on Reid

In the last 72 hours we have learned that three Democrats, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, former President Bill Clinton and Rod Blagojevich, disgraced former Governor of Illinois, have all made comments about President Barack Obama that involved race.

Reid's comments are the least offensive of the three, however because he is the Senate majority leader and therefore the only one who has something to lose he is the one that the media and the GOP will focus on and put in the hot seat.

Clinton and Blagojevich have no power, no official standing so their comments cannot be leveraged for manufactured for political theater, even though what they said was much worse.

Reid used racially insensitive language as he PRAISED Obama, while both Clinton and Blagojevich made racist comments while attacking Obama.

Lets look at the three comments and tell me why Reid is the one getting the heat.

Reid on Obama as paraphased in the book Game Changers: "He was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' "

Clinton on Obama to the Sen. Ted Kennedy: "a few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."

Blagojevich on Obama: It's such a cynical business, and most of the people in the business are full of sh** and phonies, but I was real, man — and am real. This guy, he was catapulted in on hope and change, what we *hope* the guy is. What the f***? Everything he's saying's on the teleprompter. I'm blacker than Barack Obama. I shined shoes. I grew up in a five-room apartment. My father had a little laundromat in a black community not far from where we lived. I saw it all growing up.

Looking at Reid's comments you might actually view them as more of an indictment of the electorate, the majority of which is white, rather than a criticism or insult of President Obama.

The media and the GOP are not interested in any kind of productive discussions on race and racism, they care more about instigating political theater. If the media showed any kind of understanding of race and racism Harry Reid wouldn't be the one on the hot seat today.

http://blog.windycitywatch.com/2010/01/bill-clinton-and-blagos-racist-comments.html
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:54 AM
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1. I am sure you can cite where Clinton confirmed he said any such thing
if not you owe him a big ass apology. The source for the quote is a quite conveniently dead Edward Kennedy. Frankly I wouldn't believe Haliprin if his tongue came notorized.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:58 AM
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2. Clinton's conversations are pure speculation meant to trash him AND Kennedy. nt
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:29 AM
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3. MSM will grab onto anything to disparage Dem leadership.
Any little cheesy thing they can.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:31 AM
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4. Yup
:kick:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:37 PM
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5. Yeah, Bill Clinton that all time racist..............
Geez the bullshit never ends.

Funny how Halperin and the other guy had no apparent criticism of anything that emanated from the Obama campaign. Were their legs tingling too?

Same old crap.......

:eyes:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:20 PM
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8. They did not have much because many of those same people still work for Obama
and refuse to talk about him at all. But they did go after everyone else in the campaign...The McCains, The Edwardses, Biden, Palin, The Clintons. I am sure some of the stuff has a ring of truth to it but not all of it. It just seems very slimy and gossipy.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:19 PM
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12. I don't know how much of what is in the book is true.
But it'll be a looooooong time before any politician gets a dime of my money or a minute of my time. I don't even know if I'll stir myself enough to go out and vote next time around. What a bunch of backstabbing weasels!!! And that's just the Democrats, don't even get me started with the Repugs.

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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:24 PM
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14. The claim that Bubba made a "getting us coffee" to Kennedy raises a red flag for me.
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 11:43 PM by burning rain
Bubba's plenty smart, and no person with even half a brain would say such a thing to Ted Kennedy and hope to be on his good side. Everyone knows that such a remark would enrage Ted.

And if Game Change is in part an anti-Clinton hit job by Obamalators, I must say that's a folly even from the authors' point of view, as the president depends on a political union with the Clintons, so that this sort of shit-stirring can only hurt him.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:29 AM
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15. I see this book as a hatchet job on every candidate in 2008 other than Obama.
Newsweek and Halperin were in their camp even more than Time. I almost canceled my subscription due to their unrelenting bias. Similar to MSNBC and their collective tingling legs.

If they wanted to write a fair analysis of the 2008 election they should have dissected the Obama campaign too.

BTW, I watched some of Greta's show last night and she was complaining to some guy about the sexist bashing against Hillary and Palin by the 60 Minutes panel.

At this point, both the MSM and most politicians make me sick. Learned my lesson, I'm not moving a finger to help any of these creeps get elected.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:40 PM
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6. I would argue that Reid's racism wasn't any better than Clinton's or Blago's...
just because he was complimenting Obama. He was trashing other black people in the process.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:50 PM
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7. Reid is an active Dem player for the President's agenda, so they want him out
The Right cares not for semantics, or the nagging issue about what's correct; they want to drum out anyone who they think may be helpful to the President.

Clinton and Blagojevich's remarks only reflect on them. File those in their history of suspect comments with regard to Obama. That's to their detriment, not his. As the Obama presidency progresses, it becomes an increasingly educational and enlightening experience as the attitudes that swirl around him come to light.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:30 PM
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9. In an inartful way, Reid was commenting on the racism of American voters
and that seems to something that all the press ignore but former Gov. Wilder pointed out this morning.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:53 PM
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10. Blagojevich's comments were some of the dumbest and most racially idiotic
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 07:54 PM by Number23
I've heard all year.

And, predictably, there are some on DU defending them.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:27 PM
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11. I'm not defending either one but I'm more offended by what
Clinton said, than Blago.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:46 PM
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13. I hear ya. But mainly because Clinton has not confirmed that he actually said that
while Blago seems almost PROUD of his ignorant stupidity, I'm leaning seriously towards Blago for Biggest Idiot.
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