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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:23 PM
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Plan B: Pass the Senate Bill, then Revise it via Reconciliation
Plan B: Democrats Consider How To Pass Health Care If Coakley Loses
Brian Beutler | January 18, 2010, 10:27AM

A new way forward on health care is gaining some traction among Democrats, who are preparing for the possibility that Democrat Martha Coakley will lose her bid to replace Ted Kennedy in the Senate, costing Democrats their 60th vote, which they'll need to overcome the filibuster.

The House has been preparing to tweak the Senate bill with a package of amendments based on a deal reached last week with organized labor, send it back to the upper chamber for final passage, and claim victory. But Coakley could well lose her race, depriving Democrats of the 60th vote they'd need to overcome a filibuster, and that unthinkable possibility is forcing party leaders to consider a Plan B.

As I noted last week, the House could simply pass the Senate bill unchanged, and Obama could sign reform into law. As recently as last week, a number of high-profile Democrats were saying that would never fly. But many are now suggesting that the House might still pull through, if House members are promised that the deal they agreed to last week will be passed separately--and quickly--through the filibuster-proof budget reconciliation process.

Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, told the Boston Globe, the idea is "well within the scope of the rules of the Senate," and, indeed, the deal with labor is largely a change to the tax structure of the bill, which is the sort of issue the reconciliation process is designed to address.

more...
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/plan-b-democrats-consider-how-to-pass-health-care-if-coakley-loses.php?ref=fpblg


I think the fact that the State of the Union will take place in nine days is an indication that this strategy (or something like it) will happen.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:29 PM
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1. Doing nothing is not an option
The media will bombard us with constant comparisons to 1994.

One thing, though: the unions should sign on to this deal, WITH THE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING, that failure to follow through on the reconciliation fix will mean that the unions will totally sit out this fall's election.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:57 PM
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2. I suspect the Dem. powers that be are aware of this....
... and therefore fail to follow through. Not with an election 10 months away.

We shall see.....
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:38 PM
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3. American's 45th President Al Franken says...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:30 PM
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4. Durbin says the same thing....
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 04:09 PM
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5. Could the PO poke it's little head out again?
David Shuster seems to think so....

"HCR public option will produce the $ to pay for "fix" House/labor groups want, if they go along with Sen bill. PO can be passed with 51....Again, the "patch" that will get the house to pass the Senate bill can be passed in Sen w/reconciliation, or 51 votes. $ for patch from PO"
http://twitter.com/davidshuster

oh imagine the wonderment of it all!

See there! The great chess master Obama lost the Mass election on PURPOSE SO he could get a PO with only 51 votes!!! (ha ha, I'm KIDDING, but can you IMAGINE if that's how it all turned out?)
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:47 PM
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7. Mark my words
If the Democrats decide to use reconciliation now to pass HCR that does NOT include a real Public Option or major Medicare expansion, the Party will implode.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:34 PM
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6. But then the union healthcare plans don't get their tax exemption until 2018...
...will they just shrug that off?

If not that puts other dems between (righteously) indignant unions and rabid tea-partiers.

November will be a bloodbath.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:08 AM
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8. Plan B.1 ....... lol or maybe this is plan C....
"SENATE - Chatter Senate "deal" to add 5-year Medicare doc fix (no offsets) to debt ceiling bill - to be hotlined tomorrow!
"http://twitter.com/HEALTH_NOTES/status/7974754298

(he was correct on an earlier Tweet saying that Brown would be seated ASAP btw)
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