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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:09 AM
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"Five things to watch in Massachusetts"
Keep this handy as you're watching the returns tonight!

Five things to watch in Massachusetts
By ALEX ISENSTADT & JOSH KRAUSHAAR

The stakes for Tuesday’s special Senate election in Massachusetts couldn’t be higher. At play: the Democrats’ 60-seat supermajority — and, potentially, the fate of President Barack Obama’s signature health care reform legislation.

But as Democrat Martha Coakley and Republican Scott Brown head into the rare mid-January race, just who will show up at the polls remains something of a mystery.

“Conventional wisdom is, the high turnout favors the Democrat. But in a special election, high turnout is volatile because you don’t know who’s showing up,” said Scott Ferson, a Democratic strategist in the state.

Making the vote even tougher to predict: the weather. Tuesday’s forecast calls for a mix of snow and rain, with temperatures in the low 30s.

To make some sense of the early returns, POLITICO put together a guide of five things to watch as the results come in, after polls close at 8 p.m.

Look at the South Shore
<snip>
To get a sense of whether Brown is winning the working-class vote, look no further than early returns from the heavily Democratic Irish Catholic South Shore, where Obama suffered significant drop-offs from John Kerry’s vote in 2004. Brown needs to carry the towns of Braintree and Weymouth, two Democratic strongholds that Obama barely held in 2008.

If Brown wins 55 percent in neighboring Quincy, which Obama carried by 18 points (58 percent to 40 percent), it would be devastating to the Coakley campaign.

Watch for signs of life from the Democratic machine
<snip>
Coakley needs around 35 percent turnout in those core areas (Springfield and Worcester), analysts estimate, with about a 50,000-to-60,000-vote margin in Boston and a 15,000-to-20,000-vote margin in Cambridge. One plugged-in Massachusetts Democratic strategist said he’s hoping for 40 percent turnout in the cities to feel good about Coakley’s chances — enough to offset what he expects to be a strong Brown performance in the suburbs.

The I-495 suburbs
Brown needs to win at least 55 percent of the vote in this area, particularly in high-growth places like Marlborough, Taunton and Haverhill — three towns that Romney carried by double digits in 2002 but Obama won in 2008. He’ll also need to rack up double-digit margins of victory in his home base around Wrentham and Foxborough.

The female vote
<snip>
The Massachusetts Democratic Party, keenly aware of the need to rally women to Coakley’s side, launched a blistering attack over the weekend, alleging that Brown wanted to turn away rape victims from hospitals.

If those tactics effectively rally women to the polls, it’s a good sign for Coakley. So take a close look at the composition of the electorate on election night. If women make up a clear majority, according to exit polls, Coakley may have an edge.

Kennedy’s impact
<snip>
Barnstable and Plymouth counties along Cape Cod are the places where Kennedy’s memory would most likely rescue Coakley in the eleventh hour. If she wins those counties — bellwether areas that Obama won narrowly in 2008 — it is a good sign for her campaign.

Read the whole thing....
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31632.html
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:10 AM
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1. And here are some VERY early turnout numbers from Boston...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:11 AM
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2. Bookmarking for later this evening. Thanks.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:16 AM
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3. Re: Taunton and the I 495 suburbs
Mentioned in the article as places that had voted for Romney in double digits in 2002 but went for Obama in 2008 (not really a fair comparison, because people vote very differently for gubernatorial and presidential races--the calculus is just different).

When we phone banked at OFA yesterday, these were precisely the towns we were given: Taunton (to the south) and Bellingham (to the west). I was depressed about the responses we got yesterday ... but on retrospect this morning, we did get a few more people from this group (they were all Obama voters in 2008), on balance, that said they would vote for Coakley than the ones who hung up, complained that she was a "bitch," or flat out said they were voting for Brown.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:17 AM
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4. reassuring, thank you. NT
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:18 AM
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5. What we can all do to help right now.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:25 AM
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6. K&R
:kick:
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:36 AM
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7. K&R.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:59 AM
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8. I think I'll start posting reports of turnout here....
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 12:00 PM by Clio the Leo
.... so here's one I just posted in another thread....

turnout estimated to be 60% ("Heavy") in Kennedy's old home precinct...

http://twitter.com/BogsWBZ/status/7951680225

GOOD THING! (see "Kennedy Impact")
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:12 PM
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9. Don't use Politico, they are pushing for Brown and lean Repub. n/t
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:35 PM
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10. Boston: Turn out DOUBLE what it was for the primary....
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:39 PM
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11. Thanks for the updates
:hi: Maybe there will be a big surge of voters after work, too.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:44 PM
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14. welcome....
.... wish I'd had this during the electoin in '08! Would have been fun fun!

(of course I'm not getting anything ELSE done today! lol)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:43 PM
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13. 55,309 as of noon....
.... which equals 15% turnout as of noon in Boston.

http://twitter.com/dbernstein/status/7953251169
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:05 PM
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17. Turnout at Coakley's Boston precinct is already at 25%...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:35 PM
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39. Boston as of 3pm 81,882 or 23%
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:31 PM
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64. Boston turn out seems to be topping out at 33%....
... which is apparently "good" not "Great" for Coakley.

http://twitter.com/joebattenfeld/statuses/7965815244
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:40 PM
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12. Turnout disproportionately high in the suburbs....
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:30 PM
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24. That report is anecdotal
The other reports in this string citing percentages are based on actual turnout at certain times, not some unreliable reports about how long the line of cars were in the parking lot, etc. I haven't seen any reports of actual turnout in the suburbs that would substantiate a claim that the turnout in the burbs is higher.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:36 PM
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26. Yeah, I almost didn't post it for that reason....
.... and thanks for pointing that out.

I was just fearful that all of the positive numbers from the Boston area might give false hope ... I'm trying to not be overly optimistic. :)
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:54 PM
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29. Great string
This string and a few others have at least given me hope that there is some chance to pull this one out. Yesterday I was so down in the dumps that I had no hope.

If she does manage to eke out a win it will be because people reading stuff like this would not give up, so thanks.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:51 PM
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15. Turnout at least 50% across the board...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:04 PM
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16. No exit polling tonight, only actual election results reported....
.... which means we could be up a while.

http://twitter.com/DavidShuster/status/7953833196
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:11 PM
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18. Thanks so much. Good news about Boston and Ted's district. Hope it will
Be enough.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:56 PM
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19. Worcester ballots have already surpassed primary numbers...
This under the "Watch for signs of life from the Democratic machine" category..

"I was the 397th ballot cast in Worcester, Ward 2, Precinct 3. That's already more than our precinct's entire tally for the Primary election."

"My precinct is predominately elderly folks, and they were most definitely out there, w/walkers & canes, despite a steady snow"

http://twitter.com/AssignGuy

If these folks are voting for Coakley, good thing! (am I smart or what?! lol)
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:58 PM
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20. Turnout is good--high turnout always benefits Democrats in this state.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:40 PM
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27. Do those independents vote in special elections?
If so that could be a problem.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:01 PM
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21. Quincy: 25% turnout......
.... mayor there endorsed Brown .... interviews are showing 50/50 split.

http://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/7955512837
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:28 PM
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23. More from Quincy: Obama Backers Splitting Between Brown and Coakley
http://washingtonindependent.com/74220/ma-sen-obama-backers-splitting-between-brown-and-coakley

But is Quincy considered a suburb (where Brown was expected to do well) or part of the "core areas" (see article above) that Coakley needed to do well in?
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:04 PM
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30. NO the Mayor didn't endorse Brown.
Sheets was the mayor until 2001, then lost the election. Sheets hasn't been mayor in a decade!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:10 PM
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32. a ha! good to know. NT
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:18 PM
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22. Mass Sec of State: overall turnout as high as 2.2 million....
... I dont see exact figures, but everything I'm reading indicates that it's significantly higher than other recent elections...
http://ow.ly/Yi1v

... and with that, I'm NOw going to re-read every article written in the last week saying Coakley needed HUGE turnouts to win. lol
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:32 PM
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25. kick
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:49 PM
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28. You are doing a hell of a job Clio
thank you so much, my nails are nubs right now, will be stumps before this is all through, but thank you for all you're doing. :fistbump: :yourock: :patriot:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:09 PM
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31. And having FUN doing it!
... again, not getting ANYTHING else done today (it's taken me five hours to get through two pages of a Sunday School lesson I'm teaching Sunday lol) and I DID manage to make it to Taco Bell a bit ago (the new five layer burrito is YUM!!!) ... but yeah .... Twitter is up there with cake frosting as being one of the greatest inventions ever.

Again, practically all of the info is coming from..

http://twitter.com/marcambinder/masen
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:11 PM
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33. Google spreadsheet for following the results...
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:23 PM
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37. It looks like they are breaking it down by county and giving us the percent
That went for Obama and McCain in each county and we can compare how Coakley and Brown are doing in each county to that. So far Brown is ahead winning votes in a county that went for Obama although narroowly. It is still early so hopefully things will change and we will get a better view of how things are going later on.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:13 PM
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34. Josh Marshall with hopeful evidence of higher turnout


We're getting some limited information, not just anecdotal now, but statistical, suggesting strong turnout in the bluest parts of Mass.

A reader brings us up to speed after the jump ...

By noon, more than 55,000 voters cast their ballots in Boston - up from an estimate of 24,000 during the December primary. That puts Boston on pace to produce more than 150,000 votes. In raw votes, if this keeps up, that'll be slightly more than the 2002 or 2006 state elections, but well below presidential years. (The surge in enrollments in '08 means that a slight increase in the number of voters would still be a significantly lower percentage.)

It's also above the election eve forecasts. The Secretary of State predicated roughly double the December turnout - so far, Boston is actually up 130%. And with lines discouraging voters at some precincts and a snowy morning, coupled with much more intensive GOTV efforts, there are some indications that turnout may actually tilt toward the afternoon.

It's too soon for optimism. Turnout had to exceed projections for Coakley to have any chance. Well, it has - so she's still in the running. But we're going to need more numbers before we can guess whether she'll pull it out.

I would stress the readers caveat that this is really nothing for Dems to get too excited about. What it does suggest is that the kind of big turnout Coakley would need to pull this off seems to be happening. Solid turnout is a necessary but by no means sufficient condition.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/01/turn_out_higher.php#more?ref=fpblg
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:19 PM
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36. and it's certainly not BAD news....
.... I'll take good signs where I can get them.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:17 PM
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35. Brookline: 1/3rd of registered voters already in...
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:33 PM
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38. Benchmarks based on turnout from Swing State Project


I don't know quite how to interpret some of this stuff but it looks like there is still some hope, based on turnout for the rest of the day.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:36 PM
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40. PS - Another analysis by town
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:43 PM
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44. lol....
.... I'm going to have to make a special bookmarks folder JUST for "things to watch" tonight.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:40 PM
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42. One thing is certain...
... by the this Tennessee hillbilly will know more about the great state of "mass a two cets" then I ever thought possible. :)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:37 PM
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41. Anecdotally -- Town Clerks in far western Massachusetts reported record absentee ballot requests
Don't know of that's bad news or good news, but a lot of people seem to have suddenly decided they want to vote over the past week.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:41 PM
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43. This map seems to indicate that it may be good


It is a map averaging the results from 2002 (Romney win) and 2008 (Obama win) in the various counties of MA as posted at Swing State Project by me in a reply above.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:46 PM
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45. Taunton turnout 40%
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 03:46 PM by Clio the Leo
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:57 PM
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46. Andover/Lawrence "Very high turnout ... good for Coakley"
According to the DNC Western States Political Director

http://twitter.com/edespinoza/status/7959030705
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 04:17 PM
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47. .. or not...
"Lawrence elections dept: 15-20% turnout so far. Weak."

http://twitter.com/kelleratlarge/status/7959656412
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 04:37 PM
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48. How important would you say this region is to Coakely?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 04:42 PM
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49. Haven't a clue.....
... maybe someone will .... but those two Tweeters seem to think it matters.

If only they could agree on what the turnout was. :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:13 PM
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50. Dems worried about low turn out among African American and Latino voters...
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:16 PM
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51. Not going to panic yet but sigh.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:17 PM
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52. And what about Carlisle?
"on MSNBC Bob Shrum just fretted turnout in "GOP" town of Carlisle is at 70%. Only problem? Carlisle gave Obama 67% in 08."
http://twitter.com/Dave_Wasserman/status/7963703515

... and just as an aside, other than that possible misstatement (hoping!) Shrum just handled that whole interview like the pro he is asking "why didn't Coakley point out that Scott Brown would vote against the Democrats job bill?" etc.

Brilliant
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:21 PM
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53. lol. Well hopefully Carlisle will be going for Coakley. She needs to put up
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 06:23 PM by Kdillard
Huge numbers in these areas.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:57 PM
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58. Carlisle should give Coakley a small win then.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:37 PM
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54. Small but hopeful numbers...
... and I realize I'll be looking at in six hours thinking how pitifully sweet this post is....

"662 of the Shutesbury's 1,430 voters had voted by 5pm...strongest I've heard. Small western MA town but will be 70%+ Coakley"
http://twitter.com/Dave_Wasserman/status/7964315743
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:42 PM
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55.  Sweet. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:47 PM
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56. The town voted for Obama in '08 by 85%. NT
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:50 PM
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57. Another handy dandy map to use....
... this is what a tie would look like. If Coakley makes one of the red areas more blue, OBAMA WINZ!!!! .... whoops, I mean she will win. And conversely, if Brown makes one of the blue areas more red we're screwn.



http://theelectoralmap.com/2010/01/19/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-massachusetts-electoral-map/
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:03 PM
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59. Newton turnout 60%.....
... compared to 31% in the primaries, 81% in the '08 election.

http://twitter.com/BogsWBZ/status/7965309542
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:07 PM
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60. Is that good or bad?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:11 PM
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61. lol I don't know!.....
... unless it's in the article above, I'm just counting on someone else to know! :)

Actually wait a minute, if we use this spreadsheet...
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Asp-IzZ30EFEdGZRM1NtTVQzcHFvQVVWdllnYlhLdHc&hl=en

... and maybe look at how the town in question went for Obama in '08.... Newton went for Obama by 75%. If we presume that it's still an area supportive of Obama/Dems, then I think we can presume that high turnout is a good thing ....

.... I think. :)
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:11 PM
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62. Newton's very left wing
Good news
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:19 PM
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63. Newton went big for Obama in 08. Fingers crossed they are rallying around Coakley.
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