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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:48 PM
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Should we start thinking of Primary Challenge to Jim Webb ?
he wants no votes on health care until Brown gets in the Senate. why don't we try to get someone more liberal to represent us in Virginia ?

if we nominate Webb again maybe there will be protest votes for the Republican . by nominating someone more liberal we can keep the liberals who might protest vote for the Republican because Democrats aren't liberal enough ?
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:49 PM
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1. "someone more liberal to represent us in Virginia"
Not gonna happen.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:50 PM
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4. so why the fuck are people complaining about Obama
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:56 PM
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12. Magic Negro?
:shrug:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:12 AM
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18. exactly
notice nobody is saying we should get rid of Webb and try to get someone more liberal which is what we need to pass more liberal bills out of congress for the President to sign.

most are saying this is the best we can get in places like Virginia.

yet they fucking expect and blame Obama for not getting more liberal bills out.

wtfffffffffffffff
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:54 PM
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7. Yes, as I recall, it was very close between Webb and Allen ... what was it 2006?
I forget if the election was 2004 or 2006?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:55 PM
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11. maybe if Webb was more liberal he would have won by more
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:56 PM
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13. Dude, that's idiotic.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:01 AM
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16. Well to put it more delicately, Webb's challenger was very right-wing ...
Unfortunately, our beloved state still leans right ... but it's changing - especially in the more populated, northern areas.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:01 AM
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15. Virginia is not California
or any other blue state. Democrats win by being moderate in Virginia.

I bet it is the same for most purple and red states. Instead of playing off ideologies, you focus on bread and butter issues and commonsense solutions to win voters.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:08 PM
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27. 2006
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:10 PM
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28. thanks eom
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:10 AM
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17. You are correct there.
You are lucky to get any democrat elected. The only reason you get the democratic governors is because the republican makes such a damn mess the people know they have to elect a democrat to straighten it out. There are certain little pockets where you find democrats. But mostly Virginia is a republican state.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:58 PM
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25. Ok, then let's replace him with a different moderate out of spite
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:49 PM
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2. What a bullshit post.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:49 PM
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3. We need to have Wes Clark challenge Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas. nt
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:51 PM
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now that's an idea
a good, plausible idea, lol.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:53 PM
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6. Now IMO, that is one crazy ass idea.
:crazy:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:12 PM
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29. So, neither Webb or Lincoln should be challenged, but Kerry should?
I actually think that none of the three should be challenged. But, it someone progressive had the same chance of winning, Webb and Lincoln are problem votes, when Kerry isn't.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:38 PM
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46. The senator must really scare some people
:rofl:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:55 PM
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10. As much as I despise Blanche WalMart
I'd really rather see Wes Clark replacing that CIA/Bush Crime Family shit for brains Gates at Secretary of Defense, now that he's been retired 10 years and is legally eligible for the job.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:51 PM
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5. Only if you are crazy.
Or just have a bizarre love of losing.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:55 PM
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8. Bit premature. Believe he still has 4 more years
until he is up for election.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:45 PM
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20. Two years...
He is up in 2012
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:41 PM
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44. I stand corrected. He was elected in 06.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:55 PM
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9. at this rate Virginia will go completely red
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:46 PM
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21. It is Red...
And getting redder by the day...
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:40 PM
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36. So, the glory days of two Dem Senators, a Dem Governor, and a blue presidential state are gone?
That was certainly fast.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:40 AM
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48. Yes it was...
We now have a Repub Governor, Repub Lt. Gov, and a Tea Bagger Attorney General (who wanted to pass a law requiring women to report miscarriages to the state to be sure they weren't having abortions and home schools his kids while supporting cuts in public education...oh and fought against a law to make cock-fighting a felony because it was a "Virginia tradition"), we are gonna lose between 2 and 4 Dem congressmen this year, and in two years the Repubs will get the state senate back...

Yeah...its over!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:59 PM
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14. The choice was Webb or Mister Macacca
There is nothing liberal about the Senate's HCR. It must die!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:40 AM
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19. why didn't virginia dem primary voters nominate a Dem who supported public option?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:46 PM
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22. Virginia doesn't elect liberals. Only Republicans and moderate Democrats
Which would you prefer?
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:53 PM
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23. I think it is a good idea...
Webb has only been marginally better than having a Republican in there. Perhaps a primary challenge would throw a scare into him...
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:56 PM
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24. If you really think someone more liberal
can win, sure. I doubt it though. Webb has a good mix of policy positions in my opinion for that State.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:41 AM
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49. Northern Virginia is the base of the Dem party in VA
And they are getting demoralized...
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:02 PM
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26. Webb is pretty popular here (and safe)
Mark Warner could use a wake-up call, though...
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:42 AM
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50. I saw a recent poll that had Webb and George Allen not too far apart...
I don't think he is safe at all
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:49 PM
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30. If Webb alone makes this pronouncement and it sticks, better assume he has some chops going with
other Senators on our side. Don't hear Harry getting in his face about this.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:57 PM
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31. Obama said the exact same thing today.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:38 PM
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35. Webb said it moments after Coakley's concession. So either he was told to be the messenger or he's
calling the shots on this one.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:01 PM
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32. Seems this is the party leadership thing this morning
Obama said the same thing today.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:02 PM
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33. That would be spending a lot of bucks in a state that probably
wouldn't ever elect a liberal, money that would be better spent elsewhere.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:16 PM
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34. That would be very difficult
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:42 PM
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37. I see what you are doing
Voters are voting for conservatives because they are bad at liberals for being too conservative. Voters want liberal policies and are voting for conservatives to get them. So, to respond, we need to run liberals in order to stop liberals from voting for conservatives.

It's crazy enough to work.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:43 PM
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38. head spinning
LOL, I better go get some coffee
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:45 PM
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39. Probably not the best target or use of resources
Webb probably is one of the few that is actually doing what he thinks is right rather than curry favor with the corporations. There are plenty more spineless to pressure.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:45 PM
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40. "We"???
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:46 PM
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41. Um. Obama said the same thing. Do you want to primary him, too?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:05 PM
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42. it makes more sense than voting for the republican in the GE as a"protest vote"
whatever the fuck that means
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:06 PM
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43. I don't know anyone who is doing that.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:33 PM
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45. Webb will be president someday.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 12:11 AM
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47. It's up to the voters of Virginia. Primary or not, they'll ultimately elect who they want -
- and he seems to be fairly popular around here. I don't see him going anywhere anytime soon.
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