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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:27 PM Original message |
Lincoln says "no" to Reconciliation; Bayh says his support unlikely |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Fuck them. Are there 50 votes plus Biden? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. I've heard that there are. |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. I've heard there are too. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. yes! |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Conservadems strike again. I don't think we need them. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. They don't need her vote. I wish she'd see that her DINO-ism is making her |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I'd be glad to have as much cushion as possible. NT |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. The no-cushion of our "not really 60" super-majority was killer. Individuals |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Majority = Minority |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Those two arn't necessary for reconciliation. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fuck them both. Like any of us are surprised. nt |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. DNC needs to cut their re-election support. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. Is Bayh still pouting because Obama didn't choose him for VP -- or has he always |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Both! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I couldn't agree with you more! nt |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. I find it interesting that he say sit's unlikely rather than ruling it out all together |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. He is too stupid to know when to shut up. |
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mascarax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
55. Didn't Kerry pass him over too (for VP)? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Dems need some "quick wins". |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. 50 votes + Joe Biden |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Agree .... time to kick ass!! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Hear hear! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Do we have the 50? nt |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I think we do .. just barely. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I wouldn't be surprised if McCaskill was in that group of "maybes" also. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yeah, we may not get McCaskill but I think something will squeak through. |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. I worry about McCaskill. I've called her office. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Time to e-mail my rep. I'm sure he's on board, but just want to express my |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I think Baucus will be no problem at all - if this passes, Baucus played a |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Thanks for setting me straight. You're right, of course. I just get confused |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I hope I'm right on this! |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Don't email - CALL |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. I've been calling from Korea at least every other week |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. I wouldn't worry about Baucus - there is likely no one that mores wants this to pass |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Conrad is IN CHARGE of reconciliation and said he'd be okay with it |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. And we knew when we started we wouldn't get their vote, either. Jerks. n/t |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
20. House needs a binding agreement before Voting for Senate Bill, which is still poison |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. I don't think the public option can be done under this |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Public option is a revenue item, so its do-able in Reconciliation. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Most people do not think that the provisions that would set up a public option are |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. That call is really the VP's, unless 60 Senators uphold the Parliamentarian. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. Not even news |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. Ben Nelson's also a "no" but we knew that. Even though he voted for reconciliation |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. I think 50 for anything resembling actual reform is dicey at best |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. We can lose 9. Pick the 9 and then Pass.The.Damn.Bill. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Carper, Webb, McCaskill? |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Have those three said anything? |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. I could see Webb being problematic |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. But Sen. Lincoln: reconciliation would mean that you would be irrelevant. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
30. Wasn't She Supposed To Be Quitting This Afternoon? |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
32. So? We can stand to loose ten votes on this |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. Two prime examples of why reconciliation is being considered. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. These scaredy pants are |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. Are they putting the P.O. back in? I don't support this bill without it. (nt) |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. As long as we get 51 or 50+Biden, Lincoln, Bayh, Ben Nelson, Landrieu and Lieberman can all suck it! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'll let Arkansas DUers characterize Lincoln. Bayh is a corporatist POS. |
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704wipes (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Yeah, but Susan looks better in Evan's pink tutu |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
57. Add to the list six more..... |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Crap, we'd have to run the table with all the other's supporting |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. I actually took it as somewhat good news |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. And what *I* am hoping it means..... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
60. I'd celebrate both Bayh and Lincoln losing if only to get rid of them |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-27-10 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
61. And, now we have this bit of news. I hope this isn't true. |
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