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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:41 PM
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Alito and Obama: These two guys have a history
The New Yorker

...The larger issue raised by Alito’s pouty face goes to the place of the Court in American life. In public, and especially in confirmation hearings, the Justices try to portray themselves as Olympian figures, removed from the hurly burly of politics. In Chief Justice Roberts’ famous (now mostly infamous) phrase at his confirmation hearing, the Justices are like baseball umpires, who do nothing more than call balls and strikes. But that’s not true—and it never has been true. (I discussed this issue in my Profile of Roberts.) The Justices have strong political views, which have powerful impacts on how they do their jobs. Alito performed the public service of making this point clearer for a national audience.

What makes Alito’s reaction even more delicious is that it’s further evidence that the Justice just can’t stand Obama. As a Senator, Obama voted against Alito’s confirmation, which the Justice does not seem to have forgotten. When the President-elect Obama made a courtesy call on the Justices shortly before his inauguration last year, Alito was the only member of the Court not to attend. (Obama voted against Roberts, too, but the Chief Justice managed to spare the time to welcome Obama.) The first law that Obama signed as President was the Lilly Ledbetter Act—which reversed a decision by the Supreme Court that had erected new barriers to plaintiffs filing employment discrimination cases. The author of that now-overruled decision? Samuel Alito. These two guys have a history.

And now everyone knows it. And for that reason, then, I don’t begrudge Alito his grimace. He was just being honest. Alito’s role in that room—and his place at the Court—is no different from that of the Republican members of Congress; both are dedicated political adversaries of the President. The camera—and the Justice—didn’t lie.

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2010/01/alitos-face.html#ixzz0dwRVN8vM

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:43 PM
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1. Bingo!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:44 PM
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2. Yahtzee!
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:08 PM
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8. Jenga!!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:21 PM
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10. "I Sunk Your Battleship!"
you guys already took all the good ones. :P
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:25 PM
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11. Balderdash!!!!
See, there are still more!!!!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:45 AM
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25. "Take out wrenched ankle!"
...or something like that.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 07:43 PM
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14. Rummy!
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:31 AM
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26. Boom Goes The Dynamite!
:rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:49 PM
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3. Why the focus on Alito?
All of the republicans were shaking their heads and mouthing bullshit.

They were coached.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 09:10 PM
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22. Supreme Court. Impartiality. Etc.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:50 PM
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4. Hel-lo! This just gets better and better, doesn't it?
:bounce:
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:50 PM
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5. k&r
I like it.

Yes, I do.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:53 PM
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6. The Supremes installed Bush. I'll never get over that!
Don't care if Alito was there or not,
it was still Republican appointed Justices who
did the crime of subverting our democracy,
and then telling us that this decision set no precedence.
They lost me that day, and only in gaining a majority Democratic appointed
set of justice will they earn my respect again. Till then, the 5 can blow!
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:59 AM
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24. I want the three who were involved in 2000 and the Citizens United case to retire asap
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 01:06 AM by jotsy
or face impeachment proceedings! Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy have on more than a single occasion now favored the rulers of apparent order rather than order based on the rule of law.

Roberts should step down as well to show America there can be accountability at the top.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:02 PM
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7. Alito hates both Obama and Biden.
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 04:02 PM by Jennicut
He badmouthed Biden back in Dec 2008: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16197.html
He is slime.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:20 PM
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9. alito looks like a jackass and his wife does too, two people of
privilege who wouldn't know how to cope if the world turned against them without tantrums. He looks like laughing would be a criminal offense for him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:46 PM
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12. "Alito's 'Not True' Was Out of Line; Court Deserves Obama Smack"
<snip>

"..So, kudos to Barack Obama, that former constitutional law professor, for saying it right to the justices' faces last night.

"With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that, I believe, will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations, to spend without limit in our elections.

"I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests or, worse, by foreign entities," said the president. "They should be decided by the American people."


<snip>

"The Court deserved the smackdown it got from the President of the United States last night, and Justice Sam Alito's rude protest--this year's Joe Wilson outburst--was just further proof of what a bunch of political hacks the justices have become."

<some history of the Court>
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/john-farrell/2010/01/28/alitos-not-true-was-out-of-line-court-deserves-obama-smack.html

Thanks for the article, BG~
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:49 PM
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13. Fear makes people behave stupidly.
Watch out for the Fear Mongers.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:11 PM
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15. Thanks for posting this.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:19 PM
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16. K&R. Interesting background. //nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:32 PM
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17. Part of that history involves Obama criticizing the effort to filibuster him
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 08:32 PM by depakid
despite the fact that Alito had already proven to be unethical by failing to recuse himself from a case where he had a financial interest in the outcome.

More than that- he was asked about this very company during his previous confirmation hearings and deceived Congress about what he would do should a matter come up.

On that ground alone, Democratic leaders should have rallied the troops and kept this odious man off of the high court.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:35 PM
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18. Half the people on that court should have recused themselves from various decisions
Rehnquist, Thomas, and Scalia ALL should have recused themselves from Bush v. Gore. Yet not one of them did.

And please, Roberts' name is "Former Fox News Laywer John Roberts". Don't forget it!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 09:04 PM
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20. Agreed- though none of them was on record under oath about it.
The ethics of the matter (to such extent as they still exist pro forma in the United States) are discussed here:

http://legalethicsforum.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/judge_alito_and.html

Facts of the matter:

Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr. ruled in a 2002 case in favor of the Vanguard mutual fund company at a time when he owned more than $390,000 in Vanguard funds and later complained about an effort to remove him from the case, court records show -- despite an earlier promise to recuse himself from cases involving the company.

The case involved a Massachusetts woman, Shantee Maharaj, who has spent nearly a decade fighting to win back the assets of her late husband's individual retirement accounts, which had been frozen by Vanguard after a court judgment in favor of a former business partner of her husband.

Her lawyer, John G. S. Flym, a retired Northeastern law professor, said in an interview yesterday that Alito's ''lack of integrity is so flagrant" in the case that he should be disqualified as a Supreme Court nominee.

Maharaj, 50, discovered Alito's ownership of Vanguard shares in 2002 when she requested his financial disclosure forms after he ruled against her appeal to the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.

''I just started seeing Vanguard after Vanguard, and I almost fell to the floor," she said in an interview at the Jamaica Plain home she shares with a friend after losing her own home in the course of the prolonged litigation. ''I just couldn't believe that it could be so blatant."

In 1990, when Alito was seeking US Senate approval for his nomination to be a circuit judge, he said in written answers to a questionnaire that he would disqualify himself from ''any cases involving the Vanguard companies."

After Alito ruled in Vanguard's favor in the Maharaj case, he complained about her efforts to vacate his decision and remove him from the case, writing to the chief administrative judge of the federal appeals court on which he sat in 2003: ''I do not believe that I am required to disqualify myself based on my ownership of the mutual fund shares."

More: http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2005/11/03/plaintiff_alleges_alito_conflict/


One might look at this as a foreshadowing of the lack of accountability- and the disdain for the merits of accountability- that we've seen from many Democrats and from this administration regarding corruption and violations of federal law both within the government (as with the SEC & Madoff, et al.) and among those corporations whose malfeasance caused the financial meltdown.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:44 AM
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27. "Former Fox News lawyer" - Holy Shite. I had no idea
The shit is piled so frikkin high...
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:52 PM
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28. Yep. He worked for Hogan & Hartson, which represents Fox News
He also worked for George H.W. Bush's administration, and went to Florida during the recount. He's about as partisan and connected as you can get. If my memory serves me correctly, he also illegally adopted two children from Ireland.

Here's the blip on his career, from Wikipedia:

After graduating from law school, Roberts served as a law clerk for Judge Henry Friendly on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals for one year.<3> From 1980 to 1981, he clerked for then-Associate Justice William Rehnquist on the United States Supreme Court. From 1981 to 1982, he served in the Reagan administration as a Special Assistant to U.S. Attorney General William French Smith.<3> From 1982 to 1986, Roberts served as Associate Counsel to the President under White House Counsel Fred Fielding.

Roberts entered private law practice in 1986 as an associate at the Washington, D.C.-based law firm of Hogan & Hartson, but left to serve in the George H. W. Bush administration as Principal Deputy Solicitor General from 1989 to 1993.<3> In 1992, George H. W. Bush nominated Roberts to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, but no Senate vote was held, and Roberts's nomination expired when Bush left office after losing the 1992 presidential election.

Roberts returned to Hogan & Hartson as a partner and became the head of the firm's appellate practice, in addition to serving as an adjunct faculty member at the Georgetown University Law Center.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:46 PM
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19. That is just delicious!
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 09:09 PM
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21. Roberts may have "welcomed" Obama
but I'll never forgive him for screwing of the oath. That was a historical moment that should be replayed over and over, but he ruined it -- so badly that they had to have a do-over later.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:01 AM
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23. On purpose. (Let's see if this goes to the Dungeon now.)
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