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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:50 AM
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The Teabaggers Aren't Real
The "Teabag Movement" is a recent farce created by the MSM and corporate elite. Essentially, Glenn Beck and FOX News (with the financing of corporate interests) have hijacked what was once a populist movement on the Right. These were the people that supported Ron Paul during the '08 Republican primary. But these people weren't what we today call Teabaggers. Their message wasn't riddled with scorn and spite, and they attacked other Republicans. Now, some I believe did go on and become the angry white folks we saw get behind Sarah Palin and still supported her after Gramps lost. But we're really talking about different groups with different motives. Many Ron Paul supporters were also Independents...and they aren't the same as the Palin supporters.

The Teabaggers we see today are more of a media-created illusion than an actual force. They don't represent a large or even substantial minority. And none of these folks would ever vote for a Democrat, much less Barack Obama. The purpose of the teabaggers was always a trojan horse to use against Obama should he become too progressive. I don't understand why Obama put up with it for a whole year before his recent attacks against Republicans for supporting their ignorant views. Of course, he's not going to cross the line and call out the corporate interests backing them, but what he has said seems to be working. But Barack could be doing so much more. He has called for supporters of HCR to defend it, but this is just empty rhetoric...for the DNC and none of their affiliates are doing much of anything to build a progressive base to do exactly that. And that's the only way that's going to happen. Where exactly is the support, I mean REAL support for Progressivism? Where are the progressive think tanks? The organizations? In order for there to be a progressive outcry, there needs to be infrastucture and sadly MONEY! Maybe that's why Obama isn't doing more in this department. Maybe because he knows the teabaggers are fake and at the end of the day...don't really matter. The MSM will find a way to forge their narrative no matter what the vehicle of delivery is. But this is even more of a reason to build a strong progressive base, to show the people with opposing views. Of course, there's another theory as to why it's not being done. That involves the corporate control dominating the upper echelons of the Democratic Party. The Dems aren't the party of the people anymore and haven't been since Carter. Clinton was a corporate President, he was the first Dem Corporatist. Obama comes from the same mold (although modified for the times). It is against their OWN interests to see a real progressive base. The predicament the Democrats have put themselves in is truly amazing. On the one hand, they have an unused (and often attacked) and abused base that is growing more and more tired of Democratic double talk. On the Right, they have people who would rather see this country fall into the dark ages under Obama (so they can blame it all on him) than for him to see any sort of success. The assault on this obstructionist ideology by Obama and others is growing strong. But how long will it last? Is Obama really going to rally the people?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 01:57 AM
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1. And what are we doing?
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 02:09 AM by FrenchieCat
And why is it acceptable to watch a bunch of racists parading with their signs,
while we sit there and wait to see what Obama is going to do?

Was voting on November 4, 2008 really all that it was gonna take?


After that, we were supposed to put in our order, and eat our popcorn while we sat back
and watch it happen?

When he had said he would need our help, we just laughed in his face and said, what for?

Edited to correct myself. We didn't just eat popcorn, many of us threw it at him....and downgraded his every move with our smart articulate critique. I forgot that folks only rally around a President at a time of a calamity (and of course the economic calamity doesn't count) like they did for George Bush, or when a President screws someone other than his wife. Then we are right there for 'em.

I think a whole lot of mistakes have been made, but I think we should own up to a few of our own.
Easy to point fingers, if only that could count as doing something!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 05:17 AM
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3. Rec. Great post. Need to see more like it. nt
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 05:17 AM by old mark
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:08 AM
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4. So it is
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 07:08 AM by SpiralHawk
Poor teabagsters, an insignifigant, overhyped cabal of kool-aid guzzing dupes of 'elite' FatCat Corporate Republicon Chickenhawk Puppetmasters and their Grossly Overpaid Blow-dry Chickenhawk Media Propaganda Corps.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:20 AM
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5. Of course it's a scam!
The leaders of this 'movement' are laughing all the way to the bank, and most of the rank and file probably have no idea that Obama actually cut their taxes!

The teabagger movement is just the latest example of the wealthy elite finding ways to con the 'average American' into voting against their economic interest.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:24 PM
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6. What *has* happened to the Ron Paul people?
I mean, they were going to be a movement. They seemed really energized. And I know their websites and message boards are still out there -- because I stumble into them occasionally. But they seem to be taken up with the relatively sane libertarians trying to ward off the batshit crazy teabagger types.

Does anybody know what's going on there? Has the momentum all been sucked up by the teabaggers? Or is there something that might yet come of it?

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