If You Still Think Obama Never Ran On A Public Option

Barack Obama claims that he never ran on a public option for health care. Even today, I've seen posts on DU that claim that Obama did not campaign on a public option.

If you still think that Obama is truthful in saying he never ran on a public option... please watch this, you need to know what we're dealing with here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cET2OSbtj0g

He even featured it in campaign ads.

Transcript: Obama Talks With PBS' Jim Lehrer



It's a good interview from December, you should check it out.

So, there's that. Try working for a small business sometime.

Americans

don't count to selfish people who are now on ignore for being completely self absorbed & abusive.

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Someone call a waaahhmbulance for mr sensitive :rofl: :rofl:

So there is that.

pressure Congress to pass the public option, and as you say, the President will sign it. Time is running out.

Harry would be so proud.

I love it!

the country and I believe him over the internet opinions.

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...on Republicans. Not. A. Chance.

isn't as hung up on Republicans as you think. Nothing wrong with talking.

When the truth is, they'd at least respect him if he couldn't care less what they said or did.

The Republicans are tripping all over themselves.

I'm laughing too.

Are you so naive as to think the Republicans would respect Obama under ANY circumstances?

they're not

You and the Repubs are failing to convince anyone that they're actually succeeding.

I realize that many people are disappointed,however, I certainly wouldn't what to see the Republicans take charge of the congress. My greatest fear is that Progressive Independents like myself will not show up at the polls. Why hasn't there been a counter reaction of the progressives in response to the these nitwit Tea Baggers? Is it because Obama hasn't been able to energize his base? I do believe that this bipartisanship crap is a waste of time. But I not that surprised since this was a major theme of Obama throughout his book "Audacity of Hope". I hope that he soon realizes that you can't reason with a pack of "morans".

These Tea Baggers are so consumed with hatred that they are impervious to any rational thought to the point of working against their own well being. I would love to see mobs of progressive people who are dedicated to the principles upon which this country was founded confront these buffoons. Sadly this isn't the case. I took the bus down to a rally of these Tea Baggers and there wasn't more than five people that showed up to confront them. These Tea Baggers are so radical that I feared for the safety of the meager group of protesters and I hobbled away on my cane to the bus stop wondering what the hell has this country come to. These people reminded my of the news reels of Nazi rallies in Germany I saw when I was a little kid with Hitler spewing his hatred to the admiration of the mobs. I don't believe that I am being too extreme in thinking that these people share much in common with Hitler's fascist mobs. In stead of Jews being the scapegoats, now it Blacks and Hispanics. The nation's supposed immorality is the fault of homosexuals and liberal sex education. The educated elite are not real Americans. Real Americans are white bible fearing, home schoolers and card carrying members of the NRA that despise those uppity ACLU liberals. The Bible is without error; the world was created in six days exactly 6,121 years ago or what ever and the End Days are in sight. You are dealing with some serious ignoramuses.

They are down right scary and God only knows just how far they would go if they are in control. I don't believe for a second that they wouldn't resume their PNAC neo-con dream of conquering the Middle East just as Hitler dreamed of the establishment of the "Third Reich" and the domination of Europe. The cast of characters would be the same, Goebbels, Himmler, Goering; only the names would be changed. "He who knows only his own generation, remains forever a child."

everyone will have a choice - well not really.

Even though some still try. Thank you for the vid I was just looking for.

Let the parsing begin!

Yeah, sure whatever.

for single payer. Who knows what that guy wants anymore.

I don't have a clue any more.

Do you also want to re-litigate Reverend Wright and whether he was actually giving the finger or scratching his nose?

Or just an attack on the posters character?

It's stale and been hashed and re-hashed over and over. Hence, the fact that the OP links to a youtube from last year. I bet if you browsed the DU archives you would find a rather hearty debate over this very topic on the actual date of O'Donnell's rant.

The content was factual. What President Obama said matters.

Are you saying that President Obama didn't campaign on a public option? Are you saying he didn't say he would veto a bill without a public option?

And since you brought it up, what does Rev Wright have to do with anything? The op had nothing to do with Rev Wright, you brought that up.

I do hope you'll answer my questions, I'm not trying to fight, I'm trying to actually get at your opinion.

I will not deny that Obama, and many progressives in Congress, have referenced a public option as a desirable element of health reform. However, saying Obama campaigned on a public option is a bit of an exaggeration.

I hate to break this to you ... but sometimes politicians who draw lines in the sand are forced to erase them. Deal with it, or not.

Not on this one. Not while so many poor are dying.

Not.

Guess you are in the "kill the bill" camp then. Reform without a public option is worse than no reform at all.

Whatever gets you through the night.

:rofl:

Check this one out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5nppa3cEjM

:hug:

I just gotta say fuck this shit, I'm sorry.

Ever since I ignored these zealots DU is so much more pleasant. And I think the other "Moran" in this thread is going to join his pal.

You and I know better, of course...

In any case, I'd link to it except that's a violation of DU rules.

Obama alluded to the public option a time or two as a good way to accomplish the principle goals of reform.

Dozens of members of the progressive caucus also pledged they would not support a bill without one. Yet they were/are prepared to do just that, in order to get *something* done, which is infinitely better than the alternative. ... regardless of the teabagger/firebagger "kill the bill" fantasies.

Not that the usual plethora of whining BS doesn't do that already.

There. I said it.

:P

and then to a full single payer

He should now stand up for it.

promise broken? - at least he should fess up to it

not the top down."

Give me a break. He's got an army of activists waiting to go to work if only we knew what to work for . . .

just think about the great legislation we could have if Obama and his "centrist/realist" posse built up support for the public or single payer option by direct appeal to the public, instead of expending all his energy and cash accommodating insurance and drug company executives and their bi-partisan congressional benefactors. Dem leadership health reform plan isn't about doing the right thing for the average citizen - this is about keeping CEO pockets flush with the public's money.

What really cracks me up is the calls to "move foward" and "look ahead" and "ignore the old" campaign promises from some of the usual suspects. The fact is we've been groomed to lower our expectations on health care reform almost since the day Obama pulled into office.

He made a deal with the public when he ran campaign ads outlining his vision for a public option- elect me - and this is what I will support.

He also made a deal with drug companies - support me and do not run TV ads against me and I'll forget everything I ever said about health care reform.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/02/16/follow-the-b... /

http://blog.sunlightfoundation.com/2010/02/12/the-legac... /

Guess which promises he kept? I bet you know the answer.

Jesus - with Citizen's United we are really in for a beating. Mid-terms will be very interesting. The smug centrists are very confident that Obama will carry the party based on good will alone - no need to invite liberals to the table. Its all about the realists, centrists and republicans. It's a huge gamble - if Rahm and Axelrod are wrong, and I believe they are wrong, there will be hell to pay and this administration will be a study in foolish arrogance and wasted opportunity.

In Texas, precinct leaders are trying to drum up support - needless to say, after the spectacular perverse piece of crap that our corporate sponsored government is offering as health reform (and the shills apologizing for the "necessary" compromises), the energy has been sucked out of the room. Lots of us who over many, many years have worked for the Democratic party and sent lots of cash are sitting this one out. And the new democrats are completely befuddled by it all.

The strategy seems to be for the democrats to remain as attractive as possible to republicans, thereby winning elections with the new votes - i.e. republicans will suddenly become loyal democrats if the democratic leadership behaves like loyal republicans (i.e. centrists). Patently, brain numbingly foolish. The demand for change trancends politics - if the democrats don't deliver, those neo-dems will simply go back to voting republican. And so you have pissed off liberals and pissed off republicans - the democrats will be left standing alone at the altar with centrists and their smug pragmatism as bridesmaids.

All the spin in the world won't make one thing into the other.

"must" is not "I will veto it if it doesn't".

I must go to sleep now.

sad to say, I do not give this 'reform' must credence.

Actually holding a man to his word?

Balderdash!

Get used to getting unreced based on your name.

Mr. O'Donnell buried Obama's claim under the mountain of proof that he and his advisors hoped we would forget.

It was a low-point, one of many in the stages of the president's abandonment of true HCR and his own reputation for honesty and integrity on this issue.

The president's abject failure to lead on what he set up as his "signature" issue last year will be remembered for many years as the first and most significant step to the current decline in his fortunes.

He should be ashamed of himself for this one.

Ooops, I mean Homer Simpson.

Ultimately America has no choice to move to Single Payer (or the poor-man's version: the public option) but until then it is clear Insurance companies and Wallstreet need to cash in and people must die...in the name of greed

THere are at least seven Democrat Senators who would NEVER support a public option. Did you not even know about the fillibuster until after the election in 2008?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/22/obama-repeatedly-touted-public/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/22/AR2009122202101.html?hpid=topnews

"...Those elements are in the House and Senate versions of the legislation; their competing proposals will have to be reconciled in conference committee next year. The House bill includes a government-run insurance plan favored by progressive Democrats; the Senate version does not. "I didn't campaign on the public option," Obama said in the interview..."