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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:48 PM
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Cantor:GOP will say "no" on healthcare. Reconciliation shows Dems have no interest in bipartisanship
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 07:49 PM by jefferson_dem
House minority whip says GOP will say 'no' on health deal
By Billy House CongressDaily February 19, 2010

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., said on Friday Republicans will continue to oppose healthcare legislation pushed by President Obama and the Democratic majority, claiming at one point that using the reconciliation process on that bill would mean Obama's "promise of bipartisanship is dead."

In remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Cantor said Republicans "will say 'no' to this healthcare bill because 'no' is what the American people want and that is our principled opposition that they expect us to pronounce."

His comments were the latest evidence that any hope for a health agreement to come out of President Obama's bipartisan summit next Thursday is probably little more than wishful thinking.

Democrats immediately pounced on Cantor's comments, saying they offered continuing evidence that Republicans are content to be the "party of no."

"While Eric Cantor and his Republican colleagues have for months repeatedly charged that the president is shutting them out of the process, today's comments clearly demonstrate that Republicans are interested only in politicizing the debate and have no intention in working together on reform that makes health care more stable and affordable," said Hari Sevugan, press secretary for the Democratic National Committee.

After his CPAC appearance, Cantor fired back, saying if Obama was serious about taking a bipartisan approach on health care, he would rule out the prospect of passing the measure under reconciliation rules to avoid the need to get 60 votes instead of a simple majority.

"By using the reconciliation process, the administration and Democrat leaders are sending a clear signal that they still refuse to listen to the American people and have no interest in bipartisanship," Cantor said in a statement. Using reconciliation, he continued, "makes clear that their promise of bipartisanship is dead."

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=44616&oref=todaysnews
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:53 PM
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1. Of course he said that - there would have to be some excuse. Wah-wah! nt
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:54 PM
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2. F*** cantor. you damned repukes have shown that YOU are the ones with NO interest in bipartisanship
what you are doing is, at the least, psychological projection, at worst, pathological lying.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:54 PM
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3. Finally, a Republican gets something right
We tried bipartisan. We're no longer interested.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:56 PM
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4. hey, cantor, refresh my memory. WHERE was there any mention of bipartisanship when you friggin'
repukes had the house, the senate, and the white house for six years? I don't recall ever hearing the word. what I DO remember is the way the dems were treated by you bastards.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 07:57 PM
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5. I see this as Cantor waving a white flag
The meeting next week is going to be fun!

We're getting HCR with the PO. Book it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:02 PM
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6. Word.
I haven't seen the gNOp on defense like this in a long time. How sweet it is.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:04 PM
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7. His use of "Democrat leaders" shows HE'S not interested in bipartisanship.
I wish Obama would call them out when they use those words, saying that proves they are not serious about bipartisanship by disrespecting his party.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:39 PM
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16. It shows they all failed english in grade school.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:45 PM
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18. Nah. They're doing it on purpose. I think Newt Gingrich started calling it the "DemocRAT party."
And on the freeper site, they just call us the "RAT party."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:50 PM
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19. It still shows they're ignorant whether they
do it willfully or not.

:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:59 PM
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20. They're definitely ignorant...
and they're PROUD of it. :hi:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 05:05 PM
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21. It's definitely worth calling them out on
When Dumbya used "Democrat Party" in the state of the union in 2007, people did point out that it was a sign that he wasn't interested in bipartisanship and he actually did address the issue and correct himself in a later speech.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:15 PM
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8. Ok .... I'm about to be very, very bad .... but .... FUCK that DICK WAD!
Obama should tell Eric Cantor to suck his dick.

And the Dems should tell Boehner that their health care plan will cover Bohener's rather odd tanning treatments.

If the Dems do not start to punch this right wing maniacs in the THROAT ... then the insane right wing whack jobs will impose their will.

My kids will be told that God impregnates virgins, Noah built a boat with t-Rex on it ... and Reagan did not give Amnesty to "illegal aliens".

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:24 PM
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9. Fuck you Cantor you pathetic worm
Everything you have asked for in a healthcare bill is ALREADY in the senate bill. Just go away you condescending used car salesman.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:26 PM
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10. Ahahahaha fuck you so much Cantor.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:28 PM
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11. The well-being of the citizens is all that matters here
If the bill passes with only Democrats, then so be it.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:29 PM
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12. Ram it through then.
The Rethugs do not want any healthcare bill, so move along with out them.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:31 PM
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13. Congress acts like a bunch of kids in a food fight in the school cafeteria
we vote to send these fools (of both parties) to Congress to solve serious problems and all they can do is play silly games.

Plus they act like they are all bought and owned by the big corporations. Senators and House members should wear uniforms like NASCAR with corporate sponsorship patches identifying their masters.

What ever happened to the good old days in Congress?

O'Neill was a leading opponent of the Reagan administration's domestic and defense policies. Following the 1980 election, with the U.S. Senate in Republican hands, O'Neill became the leader of the congressional opposition. This rivalry between O'Neill and Reagan was comparable to that of President Bill Clinton and Speaker Newt Gingrich in the 1990s. O'Neill called Reagan the most ignorant man who had ever occupied the White House.<8> O'Neill also said that Reagan was "Herbert Hoover with a smile" and "a cheerleader for selfishness." He also said that Reagan's policies meant that his presidency was "one big Christmas party for the rich." Privately, O'Neill and Reagan were always on cordial terms, or as Reagan himself put it in his memoirs, they were friends "after 6PM." O'Neill in that same memoir when questioned by Reagan regarding a personal attack against the President that made the paper, explained that "before 6PM it's all politics."<9> Reagan once compared O'Neill to the then-popular arcade game Pac-Man in a speech, saying that he was "a round thing that gobbles up money". He also once joked he had received a valentine card from O'Neill: "I knew it was from Tip, because the heart was bleeding."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_O%27Neill



For those in my generation, a time without partisan politics seems like wishful thinking or even a mere fantasy. However, one must only return to the Reagan years (as Republicans love to do) to discover a healthy relationship in a divided government. President Ronald Reagan and Speaker of the House Tip O'Neil were about as different as two men could possibly be. While Reagan was the proud leader of a new conservative movement, O'Neil was a self-labeled New Deal Democrat dedicating to preserving the legacy of FDR and LBJ.

However these two polar opposites managed to work together on issues that needed to be addressed. They refused to use partisanship as an excuse for inaction, but rather as an important component in a healthy debate. No better example can be given on the strength of bipartisanship than with the passage of Social Security Reform in 1983. The bill was not perfect, but proved invaluable in extending the life of a bankrupt Social Security system. Reagan and O'Neil would often joke, "after 6 o'clock we can be friends; but before 6, it's politics."

Today's Democrats and Republicans are enemies all day, all month, and all year. Senator Bayh when discussing his reasons for leaving the Senate noted, "Back in the day they used to have a saying: 'You campaign for 2 years and you legislate for 4.' Now you campaign for 6!" The sense of urgency that was so prevalent during the Reagan-O'Neil era has all but disappeared in this politicized Washington environment. Recently, a bipartisan Conrad-Gregg debt commission failed to obtain the 60 votes necessary to pass the Senate. Despite the fact that United States debt is at its highest levels since World War II, Congress apparently does not think that the subject is a matter worth investigating.
http://worldnews.imagik.org/2010/02/19/michael-bendetson-from-new-deal-to-no-deal/





It's past time for both parties to wake up and understand that the voters are beginning to get pissed. It's also time for Obama to stop campaigning and become the leader that we all hoped for. Reid and Pelosi, for all their experience, have totally failed in getting meaningful legislation such as healthcare passed. Some estimates say the unemployment rate in our country is as high as 17%. People are suffering all over this country. I see people who have lost or are in the process of losing everything on a daily basis. The efforts to stimulate the economy seem to have missed the target.

Obama still has time to show the leadership necessary to correct the problem, but he may have to chastise the leadership of both parties in Congress. He has the advantage of the "bully pulpit" and with his power of speech he can unite American citizens behind him. He has the fortune to be a President in times that demand a great leader. He can become one of the best American Presidents in history or can merely be a one term failure like Jimmy Carter who was probably the second most intelligent President in my lifetime. Bill Clinton was IMO the most intelligent.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:56 PM
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14. If I were a Democratic Senator
I would walk right up to Cantor and say Hell no I am not one bit interested in bi-partisanship. You creeps proved that's the furtherest thing from your minds. We're gonna pass all the bills with can without you and kick you to the curb." I wouldn't be afraid of the idiots.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:35 PM
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15. Yeah, you're a brilliant asshole as you shutdown with "NO".
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 03:37 PM by Cha
How dumb do they have to be to send those republicon reps out into the HOUSE?
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:39 PM
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17. And, it's about f'ing time!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 05:11 PM
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22. Go cheney yourself, cantor.
You and your gop thug cohorts absolutely sicken me. You play games while your fellow citizens are dying. I have nothing but contempt for you and your ilk. I cannot say here what I'd really like to see happen to you and your kind.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 05:15 PM
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23. And I'd say...
"you're right, we don't. We lost any interest we had when you showed you wouldn't even support your OWN ideas. Welcome to your well-deserved irrelevance."
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Kltpzyxm Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 05:24 PM
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24. No fuck you Cantor
Democrats are just bringing what the PEOPLE want. You remember them?
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