Obama demands 'up-or-down' vote on health care

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-demands-upordown-vote-apf-1520723001.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode=

the people?
nope.

"Moreover, the insurance companies aren't starting over,"


who gives a flying leap about the insurance companies?

us ..I don't care how the negatives need to look at it.

We are with you all the way!

if he had, he would not have excluded single payer from being part of the discussion. He had a chance to educate the public about it, but he found it more important to appease pharma, the insurance companies and the Republicans than to fight for the public actually having access to care.

Interesting that he's stepping in now after we've heard so much from his supporters these last few months that Obama has no real clout when it comes to Congress and that's why he never pushed a public option or anything that might actually benefit us.

for the health insurance industry bailout bill of 2010.

If it was a bailout for them, why are insurance companies opposed to it? Why are the rethugs opposed to it?

:banghead:

when people figure out how the Democrats sold them out on this scam they will be able to point at it and say they never supported it (the fact they never support anything will not be brought up).

The insurance companies aren't screaming all that much about the bill - if this were real reform they'd be running ads 24 hours a day attacking it. About the only thing in it they may not like is being told they have to cover preexisting conditions. On the other hand, there's nothing in the bill that says they can't make the cost of the "coverage" so high people won't be ablt to afford it. The other thing they didn't like was the public option - but the Senate bill doesn't include one and anything that comes out in reconciliation will be much weaker and won't give them a whole lot of competition.

Certainly they would prefer no regulation and no reform but being handed a bunch of new victims and large amounts of tax dollars will take some of the sting out of this - besides, there's nothing in the bill that says they actually have to pay claims - there's plenty of ways to cook the books and make it look like they're hitting the MLR and very little oversight to make sure they aren't cheating.

So much for "keeping them honest".

either too weak, too political, a corporatist, or all of the above. His actions say everything and that is what we are angry about. After Bush we're hungry for change not more lies, deception, and democratic excuses.