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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:15 PM
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Members of Congress who vote against health care reform should lose their seats.
That is all.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:16 PM
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Members of Congress that side with the corporations against the workers should lose their seats
Should we mention the ones that voted against the importation of cheaper drugs from Canada?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:17 PM
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3. Fucking Hell, What's Going On Here? Is This Really DU???
Fucking breathtaking shit. Holy hell.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:19 PM
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8. Bernie Sanders, Socialist, supports this bill. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:23 PM
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12. Good for Bernie, but he is not in the House
and it is the House that must choose between the horrible Senate bill, or stick to what is right and insist on a Public Option.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:25 PM
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15. "must choose between the horrible Senate bill" that Bernie Sanders supports.
No excuses for Kucinich voting against the bill.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:27 PM
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18. Without a Public Option, we will never break the health insurance monopoly
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:31 PM
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20. Really? Do you remember
this and this?



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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:55 AM
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41. Huh? A strong Public Option is the very least that is Needed.
Single Payer is inevitably what america NEEDS but if the baby step is a form of public option that instills some kind of competition then this is the route to go towards SP...anything less than this is just pathetic giveaways to corporations.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:29 PM
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19. Except his conscience....knowing why he is in DC
to look after his constituents interests.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:16 PM
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1. That includes divas like Kucinich
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:17 PM
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4. At least he is not kissing the asses of Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance
like apparently some people around here think we must all do.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:19 PM
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7. We Don't Always Agree IG, But On this I Can See We Do
Thank you for that.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:30 PM
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31. If HCR loses by a vote, there's blood on Kucinich's hands
Tell me how dingle payer passes the Senate. I'd love to hear the scenario.

The Obama plan, while not perfect, if a huge step in the right direction. If Kucinich is willing to let thousands of people suffer because they can't obtain insurance due to a "pre-existing condition", he's a repulsive, egotistical slug.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:47 AM
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37. You should be an Insurance Company Spokesperson.
I'm sure you'll fit in with the similar message given by their lobbyists. And Wall Street thanks you too.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:17 PM
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2. What health care reform?
??
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:18 PM
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5. Quite The Contrary
They should keep their seats, for a LONG time.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:19 PM
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6. OK how about members that voted for the IWR??
Members that voted for NAFTA?

You seem to have all the answers...why not let you run run the country? Who needs Congress?


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:22 PM
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11. More than 40,000 people die each year due to lack of health coverage.
The IWR didn't cause the war. Bush did.

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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:25 PM
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14. And this travesty of a bill will not change those numbers
all it will do is make it harder on the working class. If you don't see that then I am sorry.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:52 AM
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40. A giveaway to Insurers is not the smartest solution. Makes matters worse.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:20 PM
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9. Nope.. Not true, because the current health care reform bill is a pile of garbage.
If and when the majority of Dems. in Congress that vote for this POS, they should be voted out of Congress. This bill in it's current form is a total give away to the Insurance companies.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:20 PM
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10. Pathetic.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:24 PM
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13. but predictable
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:26 PM
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17. Appropriate. A no vote right or left, is a no vote. n/t
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:39 PM
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23. So what?
Each district will have a chance to determine if their congressmen properly represented them according to their 'no' vote, whatever the reason. Its not up to you to decide universally for the people what they must do, as if you know better than anyone else. Its quite condescending actually.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:48 PM
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24. I still hope they lose their seats. n/t
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:57 PM
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27. Hope in one hand and piss into the other
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 10:58 PM by Oregone
Let me know which ones fills up first.

No really....don't. I don't give a shit
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:58 PM
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28. They should still lose their seats. n/t
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:00 PM
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29. "Should"? If there was some universal justice, this shitty bill wouldn't even be on the table
The US would of had a real health care system decades ago.


But thats not the case. So...it is what it is
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:26 PM
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16. Support for health insurance reform isn't a prerequisite for a good congressman
People need to represent their constituency after all by being who they campaigned as to get elected (by those people). That is how the US government is supposed to work.


Whether or not one supports profitable low actuarial valued policies designed to cause economic rationing amongst the poor, on the government's tab, doesn't make one instantly good or bad at being a legislator
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:36 PM
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21. Has something changed?
Do we actually have a real healthcare reform bill now?
Or is it still the Insurance industry bailout that we're talking about?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:50 PM
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25. They are using fear in order to force us to support the insurance bailout the Senate passed
Fearmongering, they hope, will motive us to pressure the House to pass that corporate POS.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:38 PM
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22. I agree. But they are not voting for or against healthcare. The voting is for insurance.
You know...the insurance companies. Sound familiar.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:41 AM
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46. Let's suppose it is really about "insurance reform" rather than "health care reform"...
What does that say about opponents of the bill?

President Obama struck a populist tone, setting up the health insurance industry as his main target.

“We can’t have a system that works better for the insurance companies than it does for the American people,” he said.

Citing big rate increases for buyers of individual insurance policies in some states — 40 percent, 60 percent, even 100 percent — Mr. Obama sought to focus attention on provisions in the legislation that he said would protect consumers from the worst excesses of insurers, give people more choice among insurance policies, insure most people who do not have coverage, and put downward pressure on health care costs.

Boiling down his proposal to a few sentences, Mr. Obama asked, “How many people would like a proposal that holds insurance companies more accountable? How many people would like to give Americans the same insurance choices that members of Congress get? And how many would like a proposal that brings down costs for everyone? That’s our proposal.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/09/health/policy/09health.html?ref=politics&pagewanted=print
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:57 PM
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26. Only if the bill has a public option in it. If they vote against it then, then they can lose their
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 10:57 PM by w4rma
seats.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:00 PM
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30. The conservadems should lose their seats. The ultra progressives at least mean well.
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 11:35 PM by Jennicut
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:32 PM
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32. You have to be fucking kidding me
In other words, a "progressive" can act like a selfish ass, but since his motives are as pure as the driven snow, he gets a pass?

What a crock.

If HCR loses by one vote, there's blood on Kucinich's hands.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 11:37 PM
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33. I support the HCR. I think DK is a selfish idiot at times but I don't
think he is voting against this for the same reasons as the conservadems would. I must be the only person on this board completely bored by DK.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:14 AM
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34. pols who push a big $$$$ giveaway to insurance corps, at citizens' expense, should be primaried
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:15 AM
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35. Watch out, Kooch, this means you.
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Wardoc Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:41 AM
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36. Members of Congress who vote for the Senate "Health Care" bill should lose their seats.
That is all.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:47 AM
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38. members who vote for the insurance profit protection act should lose their seats
And most likely will.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:56 AM
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42. +10,000
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:49 AM
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39. Wall$treet: "We agree with the OP"
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 01:50 AM by denimgirly
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:27 AM
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43. Either by forcing them to run in a primary or forcing them out before a primary occurs.
Forcing them out of a primary by reducing their financial support and being negative about them in media. Then we would have a better chance to elect a better Democrat instead of trying to vote em out in the General.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:32 AM
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44. How is this to be accomplished?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:38 AM
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45. Yes.
:thumbsup:

I'm not bit on litmus tests, but this is one. I don't care if they are blue dogs or purity progressives. Whoever votes against reform should be kicked to the curb. And I will work toward that goal in 2010.
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