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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:32 PM
Original message
Kucinich, who voted against a public option, accuses the President of being against it.
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 10:33 PM by ProSense
Video: If You Listen To The President You'd Think He's For The Public Opition BUT HE'S NOT! Kucinich
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:33 PM
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1. You should stop distorting the facts
This has been debunked many times already
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:36 PM
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3. After voting against H.R. 3962 - Affordable Health Care for America Act,
Kucinich: Why I Voted NO


“By incurring only a new requirement to cover pre-existing conditions, a weakened public option, and a few other important but limited concessions, the health insurance companies are getting quite a deal. The Center for American Progress’ blog, Think Progress, states “since the President signaled that he is backing away from the public option, health insurance stocks have been on the rise.” Similarly, healthcare stocks rallied when Senator Max Baucus introduced a bill without a public option. Bloomberg reports that Curtis Lane, a prominent health industry investor, predicted a few weeks ago that “money will start flowing ...


The House bill included a public option. Why is he talking about the Baucus bill?
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:40 PM
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4. Have a problem with reading comprehension?
His statement is clear.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:44 PM
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9. Did he vote no? I think he did.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:14 PM
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61. Yes, he voted against mandates, private insurers, and low actuarial valued plans
See...we can all spin and distort, all day long.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:52 PM
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25. Yes, he stated clearly that he voted no. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:40 PM
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. Dennis' latest democratic voting record....
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO



He is becoming predictable. If he can't get HIS bill, he votes NO.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #11
88. +1
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:04 PM
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98. Predictable is not good
Even standing on principal gets lame if nothing good ever comes of it.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 08:01 AM
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91. Bernie Sanders supports the Senate bill with Obama's sidecar fix. If it's good enough for Sanders,
it ought to be good enough for Dennis J. Kucinich.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 PM
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41. dennis is the one who is distorting the facts..
for his own fucking agenda.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:13 PM
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60. You people can't seriously believe this shit
You can just as easily say he voted against mandates or he voted against funding public health clinics, or he voted against banning pre-existing condition screening.


He voted against a BILL.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:15 PM
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62. Yeah they can believe it
Same sort of team sports thinking that had Republicans supporting Bush to the end.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:32 PM
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68. dennis the distorter.. on Pres Obama..what a coincidence
who's sanctioning it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:34 PM
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2. Kucinich is either a RW troll, or has been suckered by RW trolls.
I'm still holding out for him just being a sucker.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:50 PM
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20. If you are struggling trying to find someone to call a troll, did you miss the title of this topic?
Its a full blown distortion to defame a Democratic member of congress.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:05 PM
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46. dennis knows exactly who he's hurting and
what's in it for him.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:54 PM
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100. OMG
:rofl:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:41 PM
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6. This is the first topic that I think I have ever deliberately
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 10:42 PM by truedelphi
Un rec'ced. (The only others I unrec'ced were when I meant to rec and msised the mark.)

Wish I could unrec it another two dozen times.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:53 PM
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70. I gave it unrec.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:43 AM
Response to Reply #70
85. Me too. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:02 AM
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73. Unrec
doesn't change the facts:

Kucinich: Why I Voted NO


“By incurring only a new requirement to cover pre-existing conditions, a weakened public option, and a few other important but limited concessions, the health insurance companies are getting quite a deal. The Center for American Progress’ blog, Think Progress, states “since the President signaled that he is backing away from the public option, health insurance stocks have been on the rise.” Similarly, healthcare stocks rallied when Senator Max Baucus introduced a bill without a public option. Bloomberg reports that Curtis Lane, a prominent health industry investor, predicted a few weeks ago that “money will start flowing ...


The House bill included a public option. Why is he talking about the Baucus bill?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:42 PM
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7. You're fixated
Someone dares (DARES!) to hold out for liberal values and it pisses you off.

lol
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Voting against the public option =
holding out for liberal values?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. Depends on whether its a good PO or just another phony offering
The version the House finally decided on wasnt a very strong PO.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:49 PM
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19. So he's criticizing the President for being against a phony public option?
The very one he opposes?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #19
27. I thought you guys claim Obama isnt against it?
Which is it?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. What does that have to do with the OP? n/t
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:55 PM
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32. Voting against a public option amendment in conference can be construed as voting against a PO
He didn't do that. He voted against an entire bill of mostly shit. I don't suppose you understand the difference.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:59 PM
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36. Then why does Kucnich make a big stink about losing faith in Obama and health care because...
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 10:59 PM by jefferson_dem
the public option is not in the bill? He's implying that, if it's included, all would be well.

When o' when will we ever find legislation worthy of Kucinich's support? How long will he enable the Republican agenda? Hopefully his little gadfly games will be over in 2010 if he stands against reform...again.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:01 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:01 PM
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39. Wow
"All the other political bullshit and grandstanding aside, the OP is a lie aimed at smearing a Democrat. It should be against the board rules to do this."

:rofl:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 PM
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43. You think lying and smearing Democrats is funny?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #43
48. Is President Obama a Democrat?
The self-righteous concern is a tad disingenuous.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Yes
And I fortunately don't sit around and smear him. I rarely mention Obama, as Im far more concerned about policy.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #38
47. Go whine somewhere else.
The OP is no more a lie than shit routinely smeared on this board with the President as the target.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. Saying something happened that didn't is a lie
You know it and I know it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. You really believe this response makes sense?
What are the chances he's going to get a perfect bill to vote on?
He voted against SCHIP, claiming that it didn't go far enough, then voted for the same bill a few months later.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 PM
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40. It does make sense
Voting against an amendment for a public option is voting against a public option

Voting against a 1000 page bill that might contain some watered down form is voting against a bill.

It doesn't mean he is against everything in the bill. I imagine he likes funding community health clinics (just a guess).

Dont play stupid.

Seriously.

Do not play stupid. You know what you posted is a dishonest lie at worse, and a distortion at best, all aimed to smear a Democrat
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #40
45. Can't stand the heat
tough. Kucinich is a hypocrite and grandstander.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #45
54. I can't stand lies and distortions aimed at smearing Democrats
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #54
86. I'm with you, Oregone. nt
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #45
65. lol
you overestimate yourself
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angelicwoman Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #10
57. Being for a strong P.O=liberal value, because his argument was that we needed a STRONG public option
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 11:12 PM by angelicwoman
Conservatives do not want a strong public option.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:46 PM
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12. Yes, the topic is Kucinich's grandstanding.
It's currently a hot topic since the last time he did it.

Do you think the hundreds of posts criticizing the President on the same issues over and over again by many of the same people equate to fixation?

This is a discussion board, get use to it.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. No, I think its you grandstanding
But carry on.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. No, I'm criticizing Kucinich
Thank you.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
33. The topic is a distortion aimed at ostracizing and undermining a member of the Democratic Party
You should be ashamed, if not tomb-stoned (thought thats up to the benevolent mods).
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #33
42. Does the same go for Obama? Lincoln? Nelson? Bayh? NT
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #42
55. Sure
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #33
53. Oh please.
:spray:

Now you're just being silly.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:11 PM
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:43 PM
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8. Hypocrite!
But he also voted against...

- The resolution admonishing Joe "You Lie" Wilson
- President Obama's budget
- Cap and Trade

...

So he's consistent(ly) wrong.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:46 PM
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13. If i recall he voted No on a watered-down PO...He wants strong PO or a Single Payer
I respect that even if i would have voted for a weak PO.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:52 PM
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26. He voted "NO" on a shitty bill
People need to stop using the existance of ANY PO as a litmus test for real reform. He did not vote against the PO. He voted against a bill. End of story.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:46 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:47 PM
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15. Poor thing, such a lame response. n/t
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:51 PM
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23. Exactly. Its absolutely asinine.
If ANYONE is here *defending* the content of the OP, they have a clearly distorted version of reality for the sole purpose of ostracizing a Democratic lawmaker.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
30. "People" don't trust the OP?
Projecting your own insecurities onto others is not very becoming.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. Gee, that really hurts my feelings.
I was so hoping you would like me.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #34
59. Keep digging.
Perhaps you'll get more of your posts nuked.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:17 PM
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64. You are really too funny.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Do you trust and believe the content of this topic?
Honestly now, do you?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. Yes, I do.
I believe Kucinich is unfairly ridiculing Obama and the health care bill for not including a provision that, based on his voting record, he doesn't support anyway.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #44
49. "Conviction is a greater enemy to truth than lies" - Nietzsche

This is a gage of exactly how fucked up things are today
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #44
87. That is a distortion.
Dennis will support a real public option. If we are using reconciliation to enact reform there is not reason it can't include a strong public option.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #30
58. really.. we all know the little secret. You think we are stupid?
Some here are less interested in the "forum" aspect and more interested in information control. You expect people to like that someone games them, regardless what their politics are? Be honest about it.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:11 AM
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93. I don't.
Most people who can smell a 'pro' don't, either.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:50 PM
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22. I think there's more than ample resaon to believe he is at this point
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 10:51 PM by depakid
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:51 PM
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24. And you really think this is a good way to win hearts and minds?
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 10:55 PM by Vinnie From Indy
It is lazy, dishonest and severely lessens your credibility.

Cheers!
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:53 PM
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28. It works for Republicans
If you take away logical fallacies, attacks, and distortions, all this person has left is cut & pasties.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:15 PM
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63. May I interest you in
a lame excuse:

Kucinich: Why I Voted NO


“By incurring only a new requirement to cover pre-existing conditions, a weakened public option, and a few other important but limited concessions, the health insurance companies are getting quite a deal. The Center for American Progress’ blog, Think Progress, states “since the President signaled that he is backing away from the public option, health insurance stocks have been on the rise.” Similarly, healthcare stocks rallied when Senator Max Baucus introduced a bill without a public option. Bloomberg reports that Curtis Lane, a prominent health industry investor, predicted a few weeks ago that “money will start flowing ...


The House bill included a public option. Why is he talking about the Baucus bill?
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:54 PM
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29. Thanks Prosense. I am amused by the personal attacks without real
Substance as to what you posted. Kucinich is just being himself from what I have seen. If he got everything he wanted in the bill he would still find a way to be against it. I don't know how he has supporters when people can't name a single thing he has accomplished towards progressive ideals.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:09 PM
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51. Well that is the beauty of it--he can get his "no" voting ass defeated in November.
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angelicwoman Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:25 PM
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66. Was the public option Kucinich voted against a weak one or a strong one?
How did it affect average premiums relative to no public option at all?
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:29 PM
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67. He never voted against any public option
He voted against a piece of shit bill that had a watered down public option included in its 1000 pages. The OP is just a lie.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:41 PM
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69. Will Kucinich finally fight for a PO?
Will he finally stand up to the insurance companies?

:evilgrin:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:01 AM
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72. Other than complain that it's not there - what has he done to fight for a PO?
Serious question here...I really don't follow Kucinich and don't know what he has done.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:21 AM
Response to Reply #72
83. He's big on a strong PO, and single payer.
My comment was more of a poke at those who claim Obama hasn't fought enough.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:04 AM
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74. Still focused on Kucinich?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I love it. Please, keep it up!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:08 AM
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75. "Please, keep it up!" OK:
Kucinich voted against not only the public option, but also the climate change bill, physician payment reform, the pay as you go act, Obama's Budget, consumer protection act and even the reprimand of Joe "You lie" Wilson.

All no votes with Republicans.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:38 AM
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76. Is that it? What else do you have?
:shrug:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:56 PM
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101. You need more?
:shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:00 AM
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81. Jealous prick.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:01 AM
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77. Dennis Kucinich, freind to GOP obstructionists.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:43 AM
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79. I pray this traitor gets primaried soon.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:12 PM
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96. gops loves them attentionwhores who lie.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 01:07 AM
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78. stupid thread
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:58 AM
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80. dennis is a little distorter..he's a liar.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:44 AM
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82. What an Orwellian response to a distorted slanderous lie of a topic
Kucinich must be incredibly powerful and threatening to the power structure for such a campaign to be waged against him. Clearly a voice not to be ignored

Now back to your:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:41 AM
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:21 AM
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89. +1
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:30 AM
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90. Have you no shame? eom
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:01 AM
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92. Another distortion of the facts.
Presumably deliberate.

Kucinich supported the strong PO. opposed the toothless, watered-down one.

He has been open and consistent on this point.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:42 AM
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94. Distortion, spin, etc.
A less honest broker I have never encountered. And I think broker is the right word to use, professionally speaking.
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:04 AM
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95. loves me some Kucinich
Can we clone him?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 02:07 PM
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97. He's a hypocrite and a liar.. sleazy combo.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:07 PM
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99. I'll just kick since it got so unrecc.
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