Nancy Pelosi says she has the votes to pass HCR!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/10/844795/-Pelosi:-We-have-the-votes. :bounce: :thumbsup:

That's the bill they're going to vote on now.

That's step one. Step two is going to reconciliation where the PO has a good chance of being included as it saves $.

Right now, Pelosi is trying to get assurances from the Senate that they will allow an up or down vote on the PO in reconciliation.

...'bout all one can do at this time. Well, that and argue about Kucinich :rofl:

Bring. It. On.

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A HUGE VICTORY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!! :toast: :party: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :party:

living paycheck to paycheck. For those millions of people this isn't outstanding news, its a big middle finger to us.

but it's better than the status quo despite what some think and if it weren't the GOP and Health care industry wouldn't be fighting it the way they are. If it goes down we won't see any serious effort at reform again for decades.

n/t

He DID havethe votes! 60 AYEs, Christams Eve. Reid hailed all over the place (or almost) afterwards for his major victory. And then Scott Brown happened. NOT Harry Reid's fault.

N/T

He bargained for what he wanted, then voted YES. Where do you think the 60 yes's came from with no R voting for it?

I meant, Reid claimed to have 60 votes for the public option, but he never did. He did indeed get 60 votes for the piece of shit they are going to shove on the American public, yes. :D

or not

:rofl:

I'm sick of his smugness.

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UNREC!!!!!

it will do to democrats and the economy seeing as how it is more for insurers than the people

Pass it and then find out what's in it! What a way to run a country!!!

"we" like in me, you, others here, etc. shall see. WE do not run the country. Too much outrage is bad for your health. This beeing said, I am going outside for a cigarette :-).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7883120

GD-P posts are often airy fairy hoperific changeylicious drivel.


p.s. Welcome to DU! :hi:

terms like "evil" tend to be absolute and extreme and more often than not will mark opinions or beliefs of a similar nature. Although if by "gone off the deep end in denial" simply means disagreeing with you, then I guess I qualify under those terms.

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Sorry, but anyone with a lick of common sense can see the mandate for the massive insurance rip off it is!

betray a closed mind. Perhaps if you were more open minded you would find that some of your positions are in error.

from the American people-just as the bankster bailout was.

But you can't because EVERYONE knows that the mandate is bullshit that only serves the big businesses of health insurance, the medical industry and big pharma.



You think you are so clever nitpicking my posts over words like evil or my use of emoticons-but it's beyond obvious that all you are doing is targeting me, the messenger, instead of the message.

Epic fail dude. Epic fail.

so you are starting off with a false assertion (plus terms like "bankster" only betray a closed mind).

Now to go from there major liberal economics like Paul Krugman praise this bill, agencies that protect consumers from corporations like the Consumer Union endorse this bill. In fact other than you rather wild accusations (that provide no facts to back them up) there is NOTHING to indicate this is a bad bill.

here is one talking about a 1.5 Billion profit in a single option sale (along with billions more)

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2010/03/05/2010-03-05_us_makes_15b_in_bofa_options_sale.html

Here is 25 billion from Wells Fargo

http://www.azfamily.com/internal/?path=/news/national&st=print&id=79212852


Here is Citigroup repaying 20 billion

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/stock-alert/c_citigroup-chief-thanks-taxpayers-for-45-billion-bailout-825199.html


BOA repays 45 billion

http://cbs5.com/national/bofa.repay.tarp.2.1360109.html


For more you are going to have to do your own research

I wish I could find it.

Do you really have to have this explained to you yet again?

so don't waste our time

are pretty funny.

a thread referring you to something Pelosi has said?!??? The thread you link to is more counter-productive FDL bomb throwing.

who are nothing more than bloodsucking vampires who are bound and determined to screw us all over while they rob us blind!

Nancy Pelosi is nothing more than one of their tools.

Wake up and smell the kool aid.

about anything that didn't make their leader look good too. :eyes:

kudos to you for finding a different way of using the Tinkerbell reference. There must be a "recalibration" going on somewhere about using it once it was pointed out how and why it was being used.

"airy fairy hoperific changelicious' is just SO much better!

Edited for spelling error in changelicious, didn't want to 'misquote' the poster, lol.

I will let you know but, given your past performance re posting "truthful" links, I am not too worried.....eh.

:rofl:

But no doubt you will look for more ways to deny the truth of what most people think of the bullshit mandate Pelosi is trying to shove down our throats. :eyes:

For starters.

In addition, since when do Recs mean "I agree!". Recs mean you feel that something should be on the Greatest Page. This is just a link to a Kos site. Why would I want it on the greatest page?

That's hard work (especially when you ARE at work :-))!

:D

especially when the voters don't have to identify themselves and are a completely unknown quantity.

damn, who knew recs prove truthfulness! Wow! Knowing you think that recs, or unrecs, are any kind of gauge to be used in judging the truth helps me understand a lot more about your posts and how you determine what is truth and what is not! Hilarious!

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hijacking threads is kind of pathetic and damned lazy.

just based on the conversations I've had with people over the last few weeks.

WHo knows, though. Americans have a short memory and the worst of the bill won't kick in for a few years.

If so, that's nothing to celebrate.

there is no agreement on this. I think there is. COuld it have been better? In principle, a 1000 times yes. Would it be a MAJOR improvement to get this (Senate bill + changes to pass through reconcilliation) passed? IMHO a 1000 times yes as well.

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Great News!

Send it back to the Senate so they can pass it...
Send it to the President for his signature.


We need to celebrate the most progressive Health Care bill since Medicare and Medicaid.

I hope Nancy wasn't just blowing smoke.

blue dog..at least if it were done today.

She wouldn't be talking about it.

but then I started reading some conflicting information.

from the Kos link I provided in the OP

We would be left with HR 676 and SB 1218 (EMK's Medicare for all bill) and no discussion whatsoever of corporate bailouts via mandates.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/09/AR2010030903858.html

I have no idea what you are refrring to above.

challengers!

Gee, that's right, all the big states deadlines are in March through the end of April.. Calif. I believe March 12th..Florida April 30th I believe..seems Nancyyyyy has to protect those voting for this shitty bill to make sure they don't get primary challengers!

This is their big damn chess game folks..

If Nancy has the votes..then why not vote now Nancyyyyyyy?

Oh... you promised the dems voting for shit on a shingle bill they won't get challenged ..right Nancyyyyyyyyy?????

Thought so..this bill will not get voted on until the deadlines in the big states pass for registering for primaries against sitting congress people..count on that!!

Again..California..March 12th..Florida April 30th..look up the other big states..NY..Texas..Ill...go ahead look them up..and tell me when the vote will be..My estimate..after the Florida deadline..of April 30th.

fly

where is the big conspiracy? There is only a few wavering ones out there who are changing their minds.

this horrific atrocity, i.e., welfare for the insurance cartel.