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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 05:52 PM
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Poll question: Will Obama put Goldman Sachs in their place before the end of his presidency?
And by that I mean cleaning them out of his cabinet and key economic positions and replacing them with ethical, skilled economists who have the best interests of middle and working class Americans at heart, not breaking the country so they can make a killing short selling us.

Or breaking the company into a thousand pieces so they can't be the power behind the throne for both Republican and Democratic presidents.

Or prosecuting their top execs for criminal acts like lying to most of their investors about the impending housing/derivatives crash.

Leaving these parasites in his administration poisons my perceptions of other things Obama does. For example, if the final health care bill he signs looks anything like the House or the Senate Finance bill, any compromises will look like corruption as opposed to regrettable but unavoidable.

Will Obama do any of those things?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 05:55 PM
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1. O.K., Correct Me If I'm Wrong
And frequently I am, but wasn't tim geithner a goldman sachs employee? If this is true, I don't have hope,none.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 05:58 PM
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2. Geithner came from the New York Fed.
Pretty much everyone else holding any finance-related position in the administration came from GS, though. Except for the ones from Citibank.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 05:59 PM
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3. Yes..timmy was AND still is (by his actions) a Goldman Sachs exec.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 05:31 PM
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19. No, but see he's guilty by association
See Geithner worked for Summers who worked for Rubin who worked for Goldman Sachs. It's kind of like how Obama is associated with the Weather Underground because of Bill Ayers.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:00 PM
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4. Check Moore's Movie: Capitalism -- Geitner has never done anything right in his career...total fail
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:03 PM
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6. Nor has his overseer, Larry Summers nt
Edited on Sat Nov-14-09 06:04 PM by MannyGoldstein
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:03 PM
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7. someone moore interviewed said it best: Geithner has the valuable skill of spouting gibberish with
a straight face.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:46 PM
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14. Another fucking reich-wing rich kid born into power and failing his way up the ladder.
He gets unimaginably richer while fucking up the world.

He could be the poster boy for what is wrong with America and the Obama administration.


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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:02 PM
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5. No, for a different reason
Obama has taken almost every opportunity to aid the super-rich, and neglect the rest. As far as I can tell, he's just fond of rich folks.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:17 PM
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8. Bingo: No cause O is a corporatist
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:21 PM
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9. that's an odd place for a ''community organizer'' to end up...
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:30 PM
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11. Your saying it. But look at all the hippy boomers that altered their views when their life
circumstances changed.

I think it has become clear that he is faily comfortable with wall street ideologies. I think he just wants them to dribble a little more of their mammon down to the poor and be more benevelent about it.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 11:06 PM
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15. a smart guy like Obama should know that they're only trickle down on the rest of us when their...
bladder is full.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:27 PM
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10. It is becoming apparent that he believes in neo-liberal economics and can't seem to bridge
the idea that these activities and powers by the banks are theft.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:31 PM
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12. Well you see that all you have to do is say
you are taking orders from God and the nut cases fall at your feet.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:33 PM
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13. sorta wrong premises: it's not because he's afraid of them, but that he agrees with them
like asking "will * put Halliburton in its place?" or "would * put Halliburton in its place if his VP had been a different person?"
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:58 AM
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16. I hope you're wrong, but it sure looks like you're right--so far
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 03:56 AM
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17. None of the above
If he seems to be having success with them in place, he will not replace them.

If things go the otherway, he may replace them. Or he may go down with them.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 03:13 PM
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18. he is smart enough to know that if he is having success it is IN SPITE OF them.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 05:35 PM
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20. I dont think its a matter of smart
I strongly believe that it is fairly obvious he is smart enough do to what needs done. I think the matter at hand hinges on trust, respect, experience, and possibly fear.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 05:46 PM
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21. Wait a minute


If there are demonstrable, provable crimes committed by GS, then let them be prosecuted a la Enron, Global Crossing, and so forth. Unless and until that happens, they can't be "broken up" just because they're not popular.

Everything else, I'm in complete agreement.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 11:09 PM
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22. did you see the McClatchey series on Goldman Sachs?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 11:37 PM
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23. They hedged their bets? What's wrong with that?
That's kind of how markets work.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 03:51 PM
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25. they lied to their customers, which is fraud. Also, ''hedging'' should be illegal
since it is easier to make a business fail than succeed, it stands to reason that hedging, shorting, and related practices will become more and more popular since they are the ''safer'' bet.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:53 AM
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24. He already has.
They are at the head of the table and the front of the line ahead of those who work or try to work for a living.
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