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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 07:58 PM
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'Dead Of Night'
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 07:59 PM by babylonsister
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_03/022982.php

'DEAD OF NIGHT'.... Over the course of the afternoon, we've heard quite a few floor speeches from opponents of health care reform, most of them repeating tired, cliched talking points. I haven't checked, but it stands to reason that some GOP lawmakers are just using their remarks from November, only now with more Soviet references.

But there's one talking point that's new, and unique to the circumstances: Republicans are now saying Democrats intend to pass health care reform in the "dead of night."

Seriously.


Now, my first thought is to remind GOP officials that when House Republicans voted to pass Medicare Part D under almost-comically corrupt circumstances, they did so after 3 a.m. If they want to talk about passing health care bills in the "dead of night," we can talk about passing health care bills in the "dead of night."

But that's not really the best response. The better retort is to note that they're the ones delaying the process. House Dems would almost certainly welcome the chance to approve vote right now, in prime time, for all the world to see, and then everyone could go home. The people complaining about voting in the "dead of night" are the ones pushing the vote into the "dead of night," with pointless procedural delays.


I don't really expect sincere and honest arguments at this point, but c'mon.

—Steve Benen
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:01 PM
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1. they are crooks and liars
why should we expect any decency from them?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:05 PM
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2. 9:30 PM IS the dead of night to them
It's past their bed time. :rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:07 PM
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3. The gops are never without an arsenal of accusations
that they've already committed.

That's right, Steve..if the gops wouldn't be so obstructing we could have actually done it in the sunlight.B-)
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:12 PM
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4. They really are shameless - especially given that they
held the Medicare Drug Bill vote open from 3 am till 6 am twisting arms to get their votes

There's no end to their hypocricy, and it never ceases to insult and offend me

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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:12 PM
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5. We should have seen that coming.
Someone used an analogy last week that is a perfect description of Republicans: They're like the boy who murders his parents and then begs the court for sympathy because he's an orphan. lol
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:14 PM
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6. They must be really, really old. I go to bed at 11:30 at the earliest.
Get some Mountain Dew already.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:21 PM
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8. Pipe down, young'un.
I'm not really, really old, but 11:30 can be beyond even my capabilities. And soda is bad for you. :spank:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:34 PM
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11. LOL! I am not THAT young...34. I just find after the kids go to bed, there is so much more I can get
done in the house. And go on DU. :)
And a little bit of caffeine now and then doesn't hurt. I have to drink the diet kind though (type 1 diabetic for 7 years).
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:16 PM
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7. They're dragging this out to make sure it is the
middle of the night, the vote could have happened a while ago. It's just a waste of time with all these regurgitated talking points by the party of NO.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:25 PM
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9. The Republican cockroaches have unbelievably selective memories.
And if the MSM is buying that, they do too.


Under the Cover of Darkness

By U.S. Congressman Sherrod Brown - (D-Ohio), ranking member of Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health. (Originally published Dec. 11, 2003 in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch)



Never before has the House of Representatives operated in such secrecy:

At 2:54 a.m. on a Friday in March, the House cut veterans benefits by three votes.

At 2:39 a.m. on a Friday in April, the House slashed education and health care by five votes.

At 1:56 a.m. on a Friday in May, the House passed the Leave No Millionaire Behind tax-cut bill by a handful of votes.

At 2:33 a.m. on a Friday in June, the House passed the Medicare privatization and prescription drug bill by one vote.

At 12:57 a.m. on a Friday in July, the House eviscerated Head Start by one vote.

And then, after returning from summer recess, at 12:12 a.m. on a Friday in October, the House voted $87 billion for Iraq.

Always in the middle of the night. Always after the press had passed their deadlines. Always after the American people had turned off the news and gone to bed.

What did the public see? At best, Americans read a small story with a brief explanation of the bill and the vote count in Saturday's papers.

But what did the public miss? They didn't see the House votes, which normally take no more than 20 minutes, dragging on for as long as an hour as members of the Republican leadership trolled for enough votes to cobble together a majority.

They didn't see GOP leaders stalking the floor for whoever was not in line. They didn't see Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Leader Tom DeLay coerce enough Republican members into switching their votes to produce the desired result.

In other words, they didn't see the subversion of democracy.

And late last month, they did it again. The most sweeping changes to Medicare in its 38-year history were forced through the House at 5:55 on a Saturday morning.

The debate started at midnight. The roll call began at 3:00 a.m. Most of us voted within the typical 20 minutes. Normally, the speaker would have gaveled the vote closed. But not this time; the Republican-driven bill was losing.

By 4 a.m., the bill had been defeated 216-218, with only one member, Democrat David Wu, not voting. Still, the speaker refused to gavel the vote closed.

Then the assault began.


Hastert, DeLay, Republican Whip Roy Blount, Ways and Means Chairman Bill Thomas, Energy and Commerce Chairman Billy Tauzin—all searched the floor for stray Republicans to bully.

I watched them surround Cincinnati's Steve Chabot, trying first a carrot, then a stick; but he remained defiant. Next, they aimed at retiring Michigan congressman Nick Smith, whose son is running to succeed him. They promised support if he changed his vote to yes and threatened his son's future if he refused. He stood his ground.

Many of the two dozen Republicans who voted against the bill had fled the floor. One Republican hid in the Democratic cloakroom.


By 4:30, the browbeating had moved into the Republican cloakroom, out of sight of C-SPAN cameras and the insomniac public. Republican leaders woke President George W. Bush, and a White House aide passed a cell phone from one recalcitrant member to another in the cloakroom.

At 5:55, two hours and 55 minutes after the roll call had begun—twice as long as any previous vote in the history of the U.S. House of Representatives—two obscure western Republicans emerged from the cloakroom. They walked, ashen and cowed, down the aisle to the front of the chamber, scrawled their names and district numbers on green cards to change their votes and surrendered the cards to the clerk.

The speaker gaveled the vote closed; Medicare privatization had passed.

You can do a lot in the middle of the night, under the cover of darkness.



http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/Politics/3-12-19AfterDark.htm

(bold emphasis mine)
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:27 PM
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10. Sun's still out for about a quarter of the country
still sunny out here on the West Coast - not that 9 PM is anywhere near the dead of night
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:37 PM
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12. Their pay raises were done that way
IIRC.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:21 PM
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13. And a long,long list of egregious legislation. They really are a disgusting insult
to everyone's intelligence- anyone in America with any short-term memory whatsoever.

That's what's so frightening about them. The ready, unrepenting sociopathic facility with which they distract and straight-faced lie.
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