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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:36 PM Original message |
Abused Afghan women opt for suicide |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. k and r |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. "Clearly, it is not the Taliban that is solely to blame for the plight of women and girls" |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Our government will use the plight of women to SELL the war to the public |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Maybe you should stop putting words in the President's mouth |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. He will use his rhetorical skills to sell the war to a war weary public |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. It won't work for many of us. Robert Greenwald, et. al., are getting the message OUT. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. President Obama will tell it like it is and that you're are already |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Here is the first lie: U.S. says Karzai was legitimately elected |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Good..stick to facts and leave the bullshit outside. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. When Indiana Green says it is even though it is |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
44. Liberation was just a big lie |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. So do abused Indian women. Brides are also routinely killed after their dowries are paid... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Our government is not using that as a pretext to invade India |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "but it will use the plight of Afghan women & girls in a shameless effort to sell this idiotic war" |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. And come Tuesday, you will be among those defending the use of such emotional appeal |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. So you are making stuff up again. I thought so. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. They always do .. ANYTHING to gift more of our Tax Dollars to the mighty MIC. eom |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Shortie, I respect your honest passion but I disagree with what's you're saying completely. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Yes, ClarkUSA. You are a thoughtful opponent. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. True, the Karzai government is almost as patriaracal. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. That is horrific. Barbaric. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. Afghanistan's cultures and the Taliban are a nightmare for women and little girls |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Although women can hold office, Karzai's thuggish government is still oppressive of most women. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. These things happen at all levels over there, but the culture is well ingrained in |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. True, But the Imperial USA can NOT go in there with lack of cultural intelligence |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I'm all for being sensitive |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That's the point. We don't respect their culture and Karzai is no less patriarchal. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Someone who has their eye poked out for wearing lipstick prefers the Taliban? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And you BELIEVE that you know their culture? That's insane to pull out single examples |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
52. Single examples? Women and girl children are massacred in Afghanistan |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
50. How little you know what is going on in Afghanistan! |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I can read. I don't need you changing history for me to swallow a new (your) version |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Until I see women and little girls NOT being treated like cockroaches.... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
55. Cultural intelligence? Where people are being murdered, SWAT teams do not worry about |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
27. Maybe i missed the reasoning but Why burning themselves when they can take pills?!? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Have you noted the lack of pharmacies, grocery stores and 7-11's |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Pills from what doctor? which pharmacy? A woman here may have pills easily... |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Good point - given the availability of opium (not pills) |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 01:58 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. That was my first thought. Don't they have heroin on the streets? |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
30. yes indeed, Tuesday is going to be a good day for DU |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. It will be another bad day for America |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. was the surge in Iraq a bad thing, since it has let us begin to leave? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The Sunni Awakening preceded Petraeus surge by months |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. there was no guarantee in Iraq either, yet it worked |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It wasn't because of the surge! |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. you avoided answering the question. why will cash not work in Afghanistan? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Here is the bottom line: you can have your bloody war, or you can have health care reform |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. HCR will be passed and Obama will pursue his new strategy in Afghanistan |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. We can't afford the war, either in treasure or in lives! |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. when did you become the spokesman of the Afghan People? |
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avalonofmists (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. We do not have enough cash to beat the Drug trade. Simple as that. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. we don't have to. |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-29-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
33. Heartbreaking...k&r |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
38. The only hope was shattered when the last secular government was toppled by US funding of jihadists |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. They were financed by Saudi Arabia |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. You are right, there were more players involved. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Clinton hired Al-Qaeda to bring fighters into Kosovo |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
42. Rec. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. I've said it more than once on this forum |
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