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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 06:16 AM
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I just saw this poll on Morning Joe and lost all faith in this country. Obama48%.Bush46%
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 06:26 AM
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1. You can't always trust polls..
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 06:30 AM
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2. And you can almost never trust a poll if Joe is touting it
Let me guess; Rasmussen, Gallop or WSJ?
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:32 AM
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6. I think this is it:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 03:08 PM
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19. Yes...I'm inclined to believe that! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 06:47 AM
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3. Don't know why you'd believe anything he'd present; his job
is obviously to produce 'evidence' to bring this President down. And he's good at it.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 06:50 AM
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4. Why do you watch him? Seriously.
Do you like to get agitated first thing in the morning?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 06:54 AM
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5. So what as I keep saying polls on Obama at this point are MEAN LESS
he's not on the ballot this year or next year for that matter.So Scarborough can go FUCK HIMSELF. Some one needs to ask him about that dead woman that was found when he was a Congressman I don't watch him anymore he and his side kick are idiots
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:49 AM
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7. Be leary of any poll on something that can not happen
Here, there is no threat of Bush returning to office. Much of the hatred/frustration with him has somewhat dulled over time. In addition, there has been a lot of reputation scrubbing. (Newsweek's "mission accomplished" cover story comes to mind) On the other side, the media and their tea party celebrities have battered Obama day in and day out.

Given that Bush could not return, this really is a poll where people are either backing Obama or wanting to return to the Republicans. But, look at the results - assuming the 6% undecided split evenly - this results with Obama 51%, Bush 49%. This may reflect the true current balance between the parties.

What it may demonstrate is how much of the country is completely polarized. Even in 2008, when Bush's numbers were rivaling the worst any President had, Obama got 53% of the vote against one of the worst, most out of control campaigns I have ever seen. Obama, on the other hand, had one of the best campaigns I ever saw. Now it might be that he lost votes because he is black and the highest a Democrat could get in the best situations might b slightly higher. (Kerry getting more of the white vote in some southern states suggests this - especially as it is clear there is a southern bias against a MA liberal.)

The difference between the 53% at the height of people's anger at the Republicans and the (adjusted) 51% is actually not that bad. If they had a similar Clinton/Bush poll in 2005, I bet it would have actually had Clinton ahead. (I know in early 2005, a Bush/Kerry poll showed if the election were then - Kerry would have easily won. They found Bush voters who said they were vote differently, but very few if any Kerry voters who would. )
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:02 AM
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8. Don't believe the hype. Polls are easily manipulated. The
professional 'Pollsters' manipulate polls to reflect what their clients want them to say.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:32 AM
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9. Why do you watch Morning Joe is the real question?
I swear that it's Democrats that keep their ratings up.

Please just turn the channel?
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:42 AM
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10. Polls,smolls
You can't go by polls.Go by what you know.The President is on his J O B and don't you let rigged numbers make you feel any different. They chose a certain demographic,and then take numbers. If you were to poll in a teabagging district then you will get low numbers. And when they do their polls do they call you? No. The only thing I have ever gotten is one of those robo calls during the health care reform legislation.So don't put your faith in polls put your faith in yourself and the over whelming response of love that is showed to our President whenever or where ever he goes.Here's my poll President Obama 100% Dubya -90% Feel Better!!!!!!!:hi: :hi: :hi:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:00 AM
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11. Polls are not truthful. Because remember
you have to survey a selective group of democrats and republicans equally. That does not happen. Gallup has already said they pick 2/3 republicans, because unlike Democrats they vote. And that's what they want people who vote. So right there the republicans have a leg up. And just think if they pick more republicans and Obama gets those right marks what does it tell you. And besides a lot of people lie on the polls. TEA BAGS ARE MORE INTELLIGENT GIVE ME A BREAK.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:55 AM
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12. And yet they routinely correctly predict election results...
...very mysterious.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:58 AM
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13. Petewy
That poll exists simply so that Morning Joe and his handful of flunkies can feel good about themselves.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:01 AM
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14. well dems favor Obama 84% and by 12-points so do Indies, so it's near unamimous GOP support for Bush
that makes it close--which tells me that republicans were oversampled.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:04 AM
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15. Good for you. Faith in countries should be shattered. nt
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:21 AM
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16. You know, this poll is questionable. a little over 600 people were polled and they do not say from
where. And, the polling organizations is located in North Carolina.
Do not dispair-this is what they want you to do, so that you do not go out and vote in the primaries and the general election.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:35 AM
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17. Misleading since the sample they used voted Obama:48 McCain:45.
So essentially no change since you would expect McCain suppoters to still want Bush.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_4141.pdf

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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 12:06 PM
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18. leave that Bullshit on Morning Jerk, why don't ya?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 03:10 PM
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20. And how many more "lost all faith" polls from GOP asswipe Joe will you be posting here?
:eyes:
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