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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:09 PM
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Obama the Visionless
I just read this on HuffPost and thought it was worth considering
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anis-shivani/obama-the-visionless_b_561198.html
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:12 PM
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1. I got as far as reading that our nation lost it's risk taking under Bush
considering the economic meltdown this writer couldn't be any more clueless.
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:39 PM
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4. Gets better than that.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 02:41 PM by namahage
What will financial regulation accomplish in terms of preventing another economic crisis? And should that even be the first concern? Can't we even live with the vicissitudes of the economic cycle anymore? Have we become that risk-averse? So what if companies and people and even banks go bankrupt. Let them. If they make errors, the market should punish them. Again the error being made is in institutionalizing obsolescence. Only the gales of creative destruction lead us to the next best thing, and government can never predict what the next best thing is, only private initiative can. This is how far the populist bashing of Wall Street has gone, that one finds oneself nostalgic for honesty about the virtues of the marketplace.


Yep...no regulation, trust private initiative, if you went bankrupt, it's because the market is punishing you for your errors.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:27 PM
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2. Let's check the calendar


on every month

1st Obama is too black
2nd Obama is not black enough
3rd Obama is not visionary
4th Obama is too visionary
5th Obama is too divisive
6th Obama is too concilatory
7th Obama is on the TV too much
8th Obama should be on the TV more
9th Obama should delegate to Congress more
10th Obama needs to exercise more personal leadership
11th Obama is an imperial President
12th Obama doesn't protect American interests enough


well you get the idea

oh and here is the same author saying that the Democrats are more bigoted than Arizona on immigration (because they want to improve border security)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anis-shivani/the-democrats-new-immigra_b_558016.html

obama is worse than Bush (because he wants more effective screening

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anis-shivani/losing-the-country-one-pr_b_529410.html

Obama Presidency has already failed

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anis-shivani/the-corporatist-explanati_b_434286.html

Or his negative review of "Capitalism" by Moore

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anis-shivani/is-the-opposite-of-capita_b_308776.html


So do you have any other irrelevent gadfly fiction writers you want to reccomend to us?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:32 PM
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3. Thanks for doing the legwork on this one. The OP should
Edited on Mon May-03-10 02:51 PM by babylonsister
delete this pile of manure.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:41 PM
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5. This HuffPo op-ed writer is an anti-regulatory "fiction writer" who is pro-business to the max.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 02:45 PM by ClarkUSA
Actually, it's a huge relief that Shivani the Fiction Writer doesn't like President Obama:

"Ronald Reagan no one could charge with that offense, because his vision was large and clear: downsize government and delegitimize it as the solution to problems, the world over.

Bush the father didn't do too badly on the vision thing, in retrospect, but it was Clinton who turned out to be one of the most visionary modern leaders. More than anyone else, he was responsible for globalization, the best thing that ever happened to the world since the end of outright colonialism. In his first year, NAFTA was his--and Al Gore's--biggest passion, and rightly so.
"

:puke:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:41 PM
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6. Oooh. DUers will love this!
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:44 PM
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7. "...globalization, the best thing that ever happened to the world.."
When I got to that line, I realized the joke was on me for opening the link.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:24 PM
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8. the author of the article is naive
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 04:15 PM
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9. HuffPo the Clueless
But thanks for dragging that stink in.

Is it just me or is the dumbassery way up on DU lately? :shrug:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 04:20 PM
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10. this author has nothing but "hit" pieces on Obama
plus he's a shitty writer ta'boot!:thumbsdown:
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:05 PM
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11. Well, perhaps "consider" is a little too much to ask. There's complexity there and some of it is
Edited on Mon May-03-10 07:08 PM by pundaint
right and some of it is wrong.

I don't believe that, because some of it is wrong, we should ignore some pretty good insights into how Obama's apparent point of view during the campaign doesn't make it into leadership.

My posts have not been entirely anti Obama, but I am not yet willing to renew his contract. I have frequently complained that we need a leader, and not a manager. This article clarifies some of that for me. Obama works within the tiny box he inherited, seemingly afraid to bring in fresh ideas to overlay proven bad ones. This put the vision concept into focus and, for me, that bridges the disconnect I had between what I perceived as Obama's capabilities and aspirations, and the republican direction he's been leading.

Now if you wish to discuss anything in the article have at it.

I just love your writing.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:08 PM
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12. Derivatives are financial innovation like murder is social innovation, and Global Warming is a FACT
Much as the critique of Obama as far too beholden to public opinion has its merit, the whole second half of this posting is fantasist ravings.

Global Warming is NOT just a wispy theory that people are unfairly forcing people to address, it's a runaway global catastrophe that threatens to literally destroy the species, and it's being covered up, avoided, marginalized and being only ceremonially addressed by many. Obama, who's spent his whole life charting the middle course of agreeable and amiable non-committal appeasement is ill-equipped to deal with a fast-moving disaster like Global Warming, and he'll do what he always does: chart the middle course and make gestures toward all sides.

The author of this article is simply a cocksure asshole on the subject of Global Warming and Financial "innovation". Derivatives are toxic and serve NO purpose except to allow the extremely wealthy chances to accelerate their accumulation at the risk of destroying us all. NO FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS SHOULD BE ALLOWED UNLESS THE STABILITY OF THE SYSTEM IS FIRST GUARANTEED. There is an obligation to one's fellow man to keep civilization working.

As for the gushing love of free and unchecked immigration, that's just plain reckless.

The applauding of the death of domestic manufacturing is sheer idiocy, especially as the global energy crisis drives up shipping costs and the hitherto "cheap" labor abroad gets a taste of the good life and ceases to be such a bargain.

Rarely have I started an article in such agreement and turned so hard against a writer, but this is just more snotty and Reaganite quasi-libertarian fellatio to the genius of the solitary person.

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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:15 PM
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13. Writer the brainless
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