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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:12 PM
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I don't blame Obama..
when his so called base acts so unreasonable on just about every issue,it has to be done there way or no way and most of the ones who are shouting the loudest don't even know a damn thing about most of these issues.

When Obama needs his base where in the hell were they when the Teabaggers were out there taking over the healthcare debate the base let them have it and then wanted him to go into some back room and scold the Bluedog Dems as though they would just follow along.WE THE PEOPLE were suppose to be on there asses. I was and they aren't even in my(bluedogs) state or should I say my district. Evan Byah,Nelson and the rest need their asses thrown out and the Democratic party is full of shit too. They are suppose to be putting up someone to run against the fake Democrats NOW!!!


The people seem to want him to do all of the work when a lot of them know full well what and who he is dealing with.He has been bunch in where he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't on just about every issue. When it comes to Afghanistan I believe he DOES want to get out but the situation isn't that easy and the Dems just follow along with the media and their storylines, the Dems jump on the bashing bandwagon and he hasn't even made his case yet. We couldn't leave today if we wanted to and most are acting as though no troops aren't already on the ground and facing danger..

I heard that 40% of Dems said they wouldn't be voting in 2010 the only thing I can say to that is complete foolishness. Once these people regain those seats don't start complaining about Obama when I see this as a chance to gain more seats Dems are fighing among themselves and not being strategic. We the Dems have been waiting for all of these years to become a majority and once we get one and find out that we have been counting on fake Dems all along what do we do we turn on the President. We should be using this time to take names and start kicking ass.

I think that all along the President knew about the bluedogs and he knew what he was dealing with but the Dems should have learned their lesson by now but NO,they are listening to all of the bullshit that the media is throwing out there. A lot of people should know how the game is being played by now,especially after watching the healthcare debate and the going back and forth between house and senate and the bullshit in between these republicons were stringing it along because they don't want it anyway. Now they are on the climate change bull and we will see the same game being played and where will the Dems be,looks like playing the CONS game again...

What I am trying to say is DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:20 PM
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1. Come on. Obama didn't have to invite Rick Warren to the inauguration...
He didn't have to invite healthcare lobbyists to the WH (over and over again) and cut deals that Congress wasn't even in on.

He didn't have to take single payer off the table so he had nothing to bargain with.

He didn't have to surround himself with Wall Street and Monsanto tools (among others).

He didn't have to side with the military over advisors like Biden.


This list goes on and on - voters have every right to be discouraged. Obama IS to blame for these decisions.



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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:25 PM
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3. The buck stops with Obama. Who else. And I am so fucking disappointed.
I hereby join the ranks of the LGBT community, who have had their wake up call about Obama. I am having it now.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:26 PM
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4. It's heartbreaking. nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:52 PM
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6. So the only the reason you vote for a president is..
gay issues,nothing else even matters huh? He has three more years even though with people like you it may be only a few months after the republiCONS take over again..
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:20 PM
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12. Just read my post will you? I am not in the LGBT community. nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:51 PM
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5. He did need to invite them ..
so he could see where they were coming from and so that he could tell them where he stands.

He didn't write the bill the House and senate did..

I don't agree with the Geithner and summers appointments but,I didn't expect to agree with him on everything and I have never seen people go after a president a much as this one even though they knew/know what he was dealing. When he took office he could just go in there and fix everything at once Bush and Cheney shredded everything they could before he took office..This president had to put the pieces of the puzzle together..



Now,this garbage about Biden some seem to be trying to tell him how to do his job and some seem to think that they know everything that is going on behind the scenes and are trying to created friction between him and the vice president. He doesn't have to do whatever Biden says from what we have heard he seems to be doing a little bit of everything..

The president is not going to do any and everything you want,when you want it isn't it too bad that Obama is getting blamed for his decisions as well as Bush and Cheney's. You are not there so you don't know what he is dealing with behind the scenes.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:54 PM
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8. My point is, it's silly to think the president is not responsible for his decisions. nt
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 06:55 PM by polichick
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:36 PM
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11. I didn't say he wasn't...
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:25 PM
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2. A great big hearty UNREC to your post
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:53 PM
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7. I expect that from ...
the many unreasonable people that are on DU lately...
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:07 PM
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9. Unreasonable?
He's about to escalate a war that we never should have entered into in the first goddamn place. How is it unreasonable to NOT want that?

The health care reform that most of this country wants, including everyone who voted for Obama, is about to be reduced to a national version of what Mitt Romney forced upon Massachusetts. Mitt Romney, who couldn't even win the Repuke primary despite spending millions of his own money. So how is it that we get stuck with his shitty health care plan? Is it also "unreasonable" to want an answer to that question?

His economic team is made up of the criminal sons of bitches who fucked up the economy in the first place. Meanwhile, DLC princess Chelsea is about to marry one of those same criminal sons of bitches, this bastard's father being one of the few in this crowd to actually be charged with a crime. Is it "unreasonable" to ask why the fuck we should tolerate this shit in our party?

We get (in theory) the largest Congressional majority in a lifetime and yet can't get a single fucking thing done that actually helps people, because 1/3 of them can't even vote like goddamn Democrats. Is it "unreasonable" to want to throw them out like the treasonous cowards they are?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:33 PM
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10. He's got to do what he 's got to do...
He hasn't even made the speech yet,and he didn't start it,he has to finish it and it has to be done carefully.

Who wrote the bill? Who is doing everything they can to stall and change the bill? Bluedogs/republiCONS.Yes,we are suppose to question but put the blame on who is really stalling it and changing it..

I can't argue with you about Geithner/Summers.. No argument with me on the Chelsea thing either.

No argument with you on the last paragraph either..
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