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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:33 PM
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In theory, If Hillary Clinton would have been Pres, her SCOTUS picks would have been.....
Edited on Mon May-10-10 01:43 PM by FrenchieCat
the same as the two justices that currently have been named by Obama to date.

How do I know this? Because those justices weren't just Obama's picks, but have
been the Democratic party pick since before Obama ever even announced that he was running for President,
and long before he won.

From 2007 scotusblog --


Follow-Up to the Democratic (Not So) Short List
Saturday, July 14th, 2007 5:52 pm

1. Three women received very favorable commentary as potential nominees, in the following order: (i) Diane Wood (an overwhelming response); (ii) Sonia Sotomayor; and (iii) Elena Kagan. No doubt, the great respect Dean Kagan gained for her conservative appointments at Harvard played a role here. She also has the benefit of being substantially younger than the other two.


Given those reactions, I am revising my short list of potential appointments for the first seat to: Kagan, Sears, Sotomayor, Wardlaw, and Wood. The additional names for later seats are: Granholm, Garland, Jordan (assuming an immediate elevation to the Eleventh Circuit), Patrick, and Salazar.

As for the particular predictions (which truly are wildly speculative), here is my thinking. A Democrat will want to correct the gender imbalance on the Court immediately. There is no reason to defer a Hispanic appointment with two highly qualified Hispanic women available. So the first seat will go to Sotomayor (to whom I now lean) or Wardlaw.

The second seat will go to a recognized intellectual heavyweight. That means Garland, Kagan, Sullivan, or Wood. Kagan gets the nod from me because she is the youngest (by five to ten years) and helps the gender balance of the Court.

For the third seat, I believe a Democratic President will prefer to expand the Court’s racial diversity by appointing an African American. My full list has twelve candidates. (In my original post, I predicted Deval Patrick because he is known to the Clintons and has political experience.) Because this appointment would come at least two years into a Democratic Administration, I’ll pick Teresa Roseborough, who could be appointed in the meantime to the D.C. Circuit, Second Circuit (where she works), or Eleventh Circuit (where she lives). (Walter Dellinger advocated appointing her to the Eleventh Circuit towards the end of the Clinton Administration.)

Interestingly, this would mean three consecutive appointments of women.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2007/07/follow-up-to-the-democratic-not-so-short-list




Considering this person writing was batting 100% as far back as 2007, and predicted correctly that Souter would be the first to step donw, I don't believe who the President ended being as important as to the fact that the President elected ended up being a Democrat.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:35 PM
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1. While we can't say that with any certainly, it's reasonable to conclude they or people similar
would have been Hillary's choices.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:48 PM
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3. The fact is that it appears that it is the party who has supported to top prospect
for some time now. It isn't an accident that there would be that much prescients with the top names of possible justices if a Democratic President prevailed in the election.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:47 PM
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2. But what if Jimmy Carter had defeated Reagan?
Edited on Mon May-10-10 01:53 PM by jobycom
Then he'd have been followed by Walter Mondale, then the obligatory Republican interloper--say Jack Kent--in 92, then after a disasterous four year term we'd have had a three-way election between Kent, Ross Perot, and probably Ann Richards. Richards would have won, Rick Perry would have taken her place as governor of Texas--since if Bush Daddy had never become president no one in Texas would have given a rat's ass about his dumb-ass sons.

She'd have served eight years, and then in 2000 her VP--Al Gore--would have battled Arkansas Senator Bill Clinton for the nomination. Clinton would have won, and beaten John McCain for the presidency. After so many decades of sane government, wise foreign policy, and smart economic development, the economy would have stumbled in 2006, and Clinton's running mate--former Senator Barack Obama--would have lost in 2008 to Texas Governor Rick Perry.

Rick Perry would have nominated Alberto Gonzalez and Theodore Olson to when Justices Mario Cuomo and Carol Mosley-Braun retired.

Then where would be?

Edited because I hate when people misspell Olson as Olsen but I did it anyway.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:50 PM
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4. LOL!
I'm only going back to what has been actually documented in writing specifically in reference to justice candidates being specifically named....so my theory wasn't simply pulled out of my ass....which is the difference between our two theories.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:52 PM
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5. So my theory was pulled out of my ass
And yours was pulled out of someone else's ass? :P
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:11 PM
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8. If the theory that I proposed was pulled out of someone's ass,
thus far that ass has been 100% accurate.......so a theory that ends up predicting the future this accurately has to be seen as not so much ass material.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:57 PM
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6. ....way better, but...
...not as good as Dennis Kucinich's picks.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:02 PM
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7. I'm Fire1 Kid's mom and he's ROTFL!!! STOP IT!! The both
of you!! He said to tell you, "not as good as LBJ's picks, either."
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