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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:21 PM
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Afghanistan is now Obama's war
Afghanistan is now Obama's war

By upping the stakes and sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan, Obama has donned the mantle of wartime president

Olivia Hampton
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 2 December 2009 01.31 GMT


The wave of goodwill that blessed his historic election, the very aspirations the Nobel nod rewarded, all of that has now subsided as scepticism and disillusionment have settled in, the greying president now down in his job approval ratings and bruised by almost a year of political battles. The messy deliberative process on Afghanistan, punctuated by a flurry of leaks and counterleaks, showed hesitation and second-guessing at a defining moment of his presidency, tarnishing the image built during the campaign of a White House fully in control of its message.

And it's only the beginning. The drums of civil war among the Democrats and partisan fights are already rolling, with Pentagon chief Robert Gates, the country's top military officer Admiral Michael Mullen and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton kicking off on Wednesday a series of hearings on the deeply unpopular war. Now in its ninth year, the "war of necessity," as Obama calls it, has failed to cripple a reinvigorated Taliban-led insurgency, and neither made a dent in the booming Afghan drug trade nor brought stability to a country still reeling from decades of war and two occupations. It is also killing more foreign troops and more Afghan civilians than ever before.

In the midst of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s, some of Obama's fellow Democrats have already proposed a war surtax, with the US troop level now set to reach 100,000 at a cost of one million dollars per soldier, per year. Including military contractors, that means the US forces will be larger than the Soviet forces at the height of its occupation in the 1980s. Factoring in hoped-for pledges from allies, around 150,000 forces are set to operate in Afghanistan, approximately the same number as US troops in Iraq after the 2007 surge.

Eager to tame restive Democrats while also reassuring Republicans he is not the naïve peacenik they make him out to be, Obama made clear the "off-ramps" of US engagement in the years to come, with troop strength carefully calibrated to the Kabul government's progress in battling rampant corruption and increasing the size and efficiency of Afghan security forces.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/dec/02/afghanistan-obama-war
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:29 PM
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1. Yes it is.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:29 PM
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2. Y'all fucking extra late!
That pronouncement has been out there for like.....ever! :rofl:

Obama's War | The New America Foundation
February 15, 2009
http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2009/obamas_war_10845



Reports - It's Obama's War Now
Mar 2, 2009
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090302_its_obamas_war_now/


Obama's War
April 2009
http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/200904/obama-afghanistan-iraq-war-troops


Obama's War | Foreign Affairs
April 4, 2009
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/64925/milton-bearden/obamas-war


Dave Lindorff: Obama's War
Aug 28, 2009
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff08282009.html



Obama's War - Home | PBS Video
Oct 12, 2009
http://video.pbs.org/video/1295117818/


Mr. Obama's War - HUMAN EVENTS
Nov 16, 2009
Political correctness and naiveté won't defeat Islamofascism.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34440



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:34 AM
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13. Fucking laggards.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:30 PM
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3. But tonight he embraced the Bush doctrine wholeheartedly.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:39 PM
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6. Obama has his own fucking Doctrine......Doh!
and it ain't nothing like Bush's!

The Obama Doctrine
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_obama_doctrine

It was written during the primaries,
and it still holds true.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:30 PM
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4. Yeah, it's his war
to end.

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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:32 PM
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5. I disagree with the decision to escalate, but it isnt his war. Vietnam is not Nixon or Ford's war
and no one thinks of them that way, despite escalations by Nixon like the Linebacker air operations.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:39 PM
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7. Good! Give it to him as he has all ready put together a plan to end it responsibly.
And he will go down in history as such as you choke on your ever increasing amount of failed criticism.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:14 AM
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9. Obama is going down in history alongside Johnson and Nixon
and we will get a shiny new marble monument in Washington to the fallen in Bush and Obama's wars.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:15 AM
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10. In your diary maybe....for a minute.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:16 AM
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11. More corny, laughable overdramatized bs from you.
How can you expect any sensible adult to take you seriously with the silly, over the top things that you say? Your act is getting weaker.
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Firstzar Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:06 AM
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8. True that!
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oneplanet Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:32 AM
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12. Better his war the the former POTUS
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 01:33 AM by oneplanet
who constantly had his head up Cheney's ass

At least this one THINKS and LISTENS.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:57 AM
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14. Yes, and he'll regret it, just as everyone else has.
Too bad he's too weak to stand up to the war party.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:10 AM
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15. Yea, it is. And he'll finish it.
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