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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:43 PM
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WANTED: Bullhorn moment ASAP!
Edited on Sun May-23-10 07:23 PM by FrenchieCat
Dear President Obama,

As you know, we are a nation of 300+ million easily impressed but fretful bunch. We understand that there is a possibility that no one knows exactly how to stop the spill that is killing our oceans, which may be why it hasn't been stopped to date (as no one is actually foolish enough to believe that you would just simply allow this to happen, cause politically that's not a win), but you are supposed to look like you know how to get this done, and right now, we are not getting enough of this kind of an image from you.

Please note that this Oil Spill IS political (even if you think it isn't), and as CIC head honcho you need to "look" like you are in command (see Jindal on CNN for pointers) as this situation, no matter what you are actually doing, has to look like it is under control (even if that's not really true) because what is most important right now are your approval ratings. So instead of doing what can be done and needs to be done backstage, your ass needs to get in front of the Television cameras right fucking now, and you need to engineer a Bush-like bullhorn moment.

If you recall when Morgan Freeman played President in that movie where the Asteriod was heading towards the U.S., things didn't end well for him, especially after the asteriod struck.

See, this may be the part you aren't getting.....you don't have to really know how to stop the spill, nor do you really have to implement a plan, you just have to look like you are in charge...say, like a fake cowboy holding a bullhorn standing on some type of rumble (in your case a Boat in the oil will do fine.....hey! You could look like Washington crossing the Delaware you know!) After that, you should lasso up some BP executives and twist their arms behind their backs and force them to say on national Teevee that they really knew how to stop the spill but they just aren't willing to, (because in their hearts of hearts, once this shit happened, they really wanted the American people to rise up against Offshore Drilling).

It's really not that hard you know! All you need are cameras, and I know you've got some of those in your posse, cause I saw you on camera during the middle of the day, talking about the spill in the rain (but politically, that was ages ago...and plus, you didn't have any props, cause rain don't count!)



Of course if CNN and the rest of the media tries to say that you are just in it for the photo op (and I'm sure they will....but don't worry about that, cause we've got your back--well maybe, maybe not) and that you still don't have an answer (since no one actually seems to to date), you can always order the nukes based on some theories and look really tough and bad and mean (and some of us have been waiting for you to look just like that that for ages)! That's what Americans love; heros who are looking like they are doing tough stuff.

So hurry the fuck up, cause the Internet is having a heart attack worrying about how this "looks" for you politically (some are practically salivating in fact), cause there ain't shit else that the Internet can do right now.

So, Mr. President, This is how you get up to 90% approval ratings!



of course, if you were Reagan, nothing would be your fault anyways, so a speech would do. I know, I know, you have given speeches to date on the oil spill, but they weren't televised at prime time so they don't count (cause if we don't see it, it ain't happening). So perhaps you could give a speech like Reagan did rallying Americans to be strong after the Challenger tragedy.

like this:



Of course, Carter didn't have any luck, and considering how Democrats treated him at the time,
he certainly didn't do enough....

Remember this?



That was the end of that,

and of course, that's how we ended up with Reagan.

Of course, the last Democratic President, well...remember when he did nothing?

Rwanda-


That turned out ok, but only because the something he didn't do had something to do with a faraway land....while what we are talking about here affects Americans and nature and so even if this is a catastrophe of unmeasurable proportion, you need get busy looking like you are managing this nightmare shit....cause that's why we elected you; to be in control of shit, even if the shit is out of control!

So please, start looking like you are doing something, cause "Looking like" is more powerful to most Americans than anything that you could ever actually "do".

We have an election in November, and we need you looking Presidential, strong, in control and keeping our shit together. That's your job, and you need to get it done right fucking Now!

What should you do? I don't know, but do something to make you look like you are doing something, even if you are already doing something, cause we aren't seeing it, and if we aren't seeing it, than we can't be sure that you are doing it, and at the end, that's what counts here in America! :patriot:

An American
Who needs to see you doing stuff
so I can talk about them




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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:51 PM
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1. The parts of George Bush that wanted to help people in oppression
Edited on Sun May-23-10 06:57 PM by RandomThoughts
In Iraq and Afghanistan is good intent, but many of the methods, and thoughts of worth of life in many places makes the methods used not the best. And there were bad intents also. And bad methods used (Karl Rove) to get to the place he was at.

No person is all bad or all good, and can't even really say how much of each is from actions, but many know when some actions are wrong, and when some are correct.

And every person makes mistakes and nobody is perfect.


And another thing, a comment should hold its own credibility and not be about the person saying it, nor should a person worry about approval, except in the concept that most people are more good then bad, and approval can get people, if they have knowledge without fear, to help people think on what they do.

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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:57 PM
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4. * did not want to help people in oppression
What makes you think he did?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:59 PM
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6. Maybe it was a rationalization.
It may be as you say, maybe not, not for me to judge.

But I would guess he thought of it that way in his mind, or maybe I hope he had that thought also.

But he also had many other thoughts and reasons for his decisions, or for allowing other people to make decisions for him.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:47 AM
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47. Take out some time and read Clarke's account of what transpired:
"I expected to go back to a round of meetings examining what the next attacks could be… Instead I walked into a series of discussions about Iraq. At first I was incredulous that we were talking about something other than getting Al Qaeda. Then I realized with almost a sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were going to take advantage of this national tragedy to promote their agenda about Iraq. Since the beginning of the administration, indeed well before, they had been pressing for a war with Iraq."
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:52 PM
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2. You have naile dit perfectly!
The fact is that it may be true that BP is the best to stop what they started, but that does NOT absolve Pres. Obama from his duties as President. As we have heard throughout history by Presidents, one of the most fundamental responsibilities of the office is to EXECUTE decisions to PROTECT AND DEFEND America. Simply repeating that this is BP's mess to clean up and that the US Govt. will be "monitoring" the situation is a dismal failure to lead.

From a purely political point of view, each day that the President does NOT declare a national emergency is another day of added ownership of this disaster by this Administration. I simply find it mind boggling that Obama seems to not even grab the low hanging fruit by declaring ALL offshore rigs will be reviewed for safety procedures.

While others may disagree, I believe that Obama is failing miserably to explain the level of catastrophe that this event surely is for millions of Americans.

Simply issuing stern warnings to BP for missing deadlines and the like is not going to cut it by a long shot. He will pay a political price, and rightfully so, if he does not lead and explain the magnitude of the disaster and the efforts he will take to address the entire offshore oil drilling industry.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:55 PM
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3. Okay Frenchie
I know that you are a strong supporter of Obama's, and some even accuse you of being a cheerleader. So to read this mildly critical post from you piques my curiosity. I watch almost no corporate TV, and don't really know how Obama is "coming across" to the average viewer. I assume the corporate media is doing its best to undermine him in this as in everything else. But is he really, in your opinion, doing something wrong? Or is it just a matter of PR? Because if it's just a matter of PR, I think the game is rigged.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:58 PM
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5. I think it is the PR.
I think if there was anything to stop what is happening, it would have happened, as I don't believe anyone profits from this ongoing nightmare. Not even BP.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:00 PM
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7. The corporate media is needed to win a PR game
They will not co-operate as they willingly and dishonestly did with * for eight long years.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:02 PM
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8. Well, we know that......
but that is not supposed to be a consideration for anyone, cause we can't do shit about it.....

I'd like a speech in the Oval Office on this. Perhaps then folks will hear what he is saying and doing. :shrug:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:36 PM
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11. YES! Because it is greatly needed (speech in the Oval to show he IS doing much), because doing a
basketball interview, and focusing plenty of his interest on HOOPS, and Lebron James future team is really not looking good.

Great OP, and I agree, the MSM mostly will try to ignore anything he says, that's why a national address is needed, YESTERDAY!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 07:58 PM
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52. I think you missed the snark in this post
Or perhaps, I just read it that way because I've never seen FrenchieCat by critical of anything the President has done or said.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:04 PM
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9. K&R. I was thinking the same thing. Chris Matthews, James Carville,
Edited on Sun May-23-10 07:07 PM by jenmito
Thomas Friedman, and others, all begging him to "do something," accusing him of just "sitting there" or "sitting back" or "being lackadaisical and naive." I, too, thought they won't be happy unless they see him doing something like Bush standing on the rubble. Never mind that he's been working on this oil spill since the hours after it started happening. If the guys on tv don't SEE an "action hero," nothing is being done. :eyes:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 07:16 PM
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10. Kind of like that winning lottery ticket in someone's closed drawer.
if you don't know you've got it, you ain't won shit till someone sees it.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:00 PM
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18. I wonder if Tweety and those others have done anything
useful in their lives. If Tweety's mouth could be used to harness energy, it might be worth all his blathering.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 11:34 PM
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20. Yeah, because Obama is really just stitting at his desk while all of this is going on
scratching his a** with one hand and picking his nose with the other one while gazing at......well, what WOULD he be gazing at sitting at his desk? :shrug:

Just because Obama isn't doing what WE would like him to do or think that he should do does NOT mean that he isn't *doing* something. Geez!!!! Calm down people and get a grip!!!!
:banghead:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:03 PM
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12. Good one, Frenchie.
Spot on.

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:12 PM
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13. Yes. People are scared. He knows more than we do, maybe it's too hard to be positive? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:15 PM
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14. FC, just so we're clear, I love you.
:loveya: Great post!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:14 PM
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28. You don't love me as much as I love you!
:pals:
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:28 PM
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15. kick,kick,kick &recommend
Edited on Sun May-23-10 09:31 PM by butterfly77
:kick: because we all know its about looking tough..
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:36 PM
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16. "...cause that's why we elected you; to be in control of shit, even if the shit is out of control!"
LOL! I just wanted to see that again. :-)

Love ya FrenchieCat!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:46 PM
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17. Wanted: Command and control of a global crisis in the hands of parties
not primarily driven by profit motive and to limit culpability.

Wanted: Leadership on a problem who's only focus is the well being of the American people and our habitat.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 10:06 PM
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19. hammer, meet nail
Only thing I would change is:

An American
Who needs to see you doing stuff
so I can talk about them

to

An American
Who needs to see you doing stuff ON TEEVEE
so I can talk about them


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:03 AM
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21. Yep! That's really is what I meant! Thanks!
:hi:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:20 AM
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22. Why some people need bullshit PR to make themselves feel better about something
I will never know. Because that would be all it would be, if Obama was on tv in primetime giving "updates" on the oil spill. Because no one knows how to stop it, because it is 5000 feet down and all the technology being tried is experimental. Updates? Look at the news footage...the ocean is a mess. I don't need to be told that. The cleanup will last months, years. We all know that.

Good post Frenchie.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:56 AM
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:23 AM
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24. I want to laugh but the stupidity blanketing this site and forcing OPs such as this one
is preventing me from doing so.

So I'll just rec with a weary shake of my head.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:28 PM
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25. Well, I think that whatever Obama does, the criticisms will continue.....
Edited on Mon May-24-10 12:28 PM by FrenchieCat
Because those who can criticize will always find something done wrong......
because I will say that no, this administration isn't perfect by any means.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:24 PM
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51. Right. And we have to really look hard to find mistakes and bad policies, don't we?
No, wait.

It's all in the news every day.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:05 PM
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26. There are Folks on the Left and the Right That Desperately Want Obama To Fail
And they will seize any opportunity to make it so. That's why they criticize without offering any credible, workable, alternative solutions.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:55 PM
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30. WHY HASN'T HE "TAKEN OVER" like the folks on Grand Isle?
They've commandeered 40 BP boats:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8402873&mesg_id=8405560

AFTER REFUSING FEDERAL ASSISTANCE:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/24/earlyshow/main6513824.shtml

And jurisdiction may not end with the feds: "CBS Evening News" anchor Katie Couric reported that the mayor of Grand Isle, La., objected to the Coast Guard, saying they did not want oil containment booms used around the beach because it would be "unsightly" for beachgoers. Rear Admiral Mary Landry told Couric that they have to respect the wishes of local leaders.

Let's see where they're at after BP's lawyers get to them...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:09 PM
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27. K & R
:thumbsup:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:24 PM
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29. Excellent!!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:39 PM
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31. Get some oil slick on your bomber jacket Mr. President.
Maybe President Obama can develop BP tourettes like Giuliani and become "Americas President" on MSNBC and FoxNews.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:52 PM
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32. Bingo. Even some in the freakin' media (Matthews, for
instance) really want a meaningless, symbolic and misleading gesture (bullhorn moment, mission accomplished photo op, etc). Obama eschews such drama.

In fairness, it would probably be a good political move if he came up with a way to have such an event--if he can do something that isn't ENTIRELY a meaningless and empty political gesture. Then again, that's never bothered the pukes.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:00 PM
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33. Seems the DLC really wants their own Bush, eh?
Good luck...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:06 PM
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34. DLC has nothing to do with this,
except for as a non relevant strawman.

Kind of like blaming the boogeyman because the Tooth fairy doesn't exist.

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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:49 PM
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37. Obviously "strawman argument" does not mean what you think it means...
Edited on Mon May-24-10 07:51 PM by liberation
... since you gave an example of a "false analogy" via a very badly formed equivalence.

There is absolutely nothing redeeming about the Bush administration, nothing. Much less his exploitation of a national tragedy in which thousands of people died, in order to further his agenda which included the looting of the treasury and getting our kids involved in two wars which have killed untold scores of innocents.

It was you who wrote an op-ed clamoring for Obama to have his "Bush moment," a moment which was nothing but an exploitation of a tragedy. Some of you need to start reconsidering some things...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:05 PM
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39. I'm glad you now got it!
[]i""Bush moment," a moment which was nothing but an exploitation of a tragedy."

perhaps you didn't get my sarcastic op intially.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:17 PM
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35. Great post! Wish I could K&R!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:24 PM
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36. Ed Schultz said today that this could be Obama's "Waterloo" and Keith is asking "When will Obama get
Edited on Mon May-24-10 08:17 PM by jenmito
angry about this," when he'll start taking this seriously, etc., and he had Howard Finemann on who just said the Dems. in LA are talking about Obama not "getting it," with Donna Brazile asking, "Where's the 'fierce urgency of now?'" It's as if NOBODY'S listening to a WORD the admin. is saying! :grr:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:57 PM
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38. It's the "In" thing......
and the lesson that it teaches; when those who don't know what to do don't know what to do, they panic.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:30 PM
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40. IRONY!
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:40 PM
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41. The "appearance" of leadership is in fact part of leadership.
Your claim that Obama is in doing something would be much easier to support if that something was visible.

A time of crisis is not a time for the national leader to hide from public view.

Winston Churchill and (yes) FDR understood that aspect of leadership very well.

The people Obama has been sending out are not exactly performing well before the cameras.

And that really does, in fact, matter.

I wish he would get out there and take questions and names names.

We really NEED him to.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 03:46 PM
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42. Excellent, Frenchie!
Homage to such a freaking shallow mediawhoredom.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:19 PM
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43. Too late to rec, but I can damn sure Kick! I only wish I had written it.
:kick: :rofl: :kick::rofl::kick::rofl::kick:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:38 PM
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44. LOL! I'll memorize this for when I'm campaigning for DEMS!!!!
Edited on Tue May-25-10 04:39 PM by Dr Fate
If any of those silly, pony-wishing swing voters express disatisfaction with how he handled Big Oil, I'll just repeat all this to them.

Not only will they be amused, but I'm sure they will hand me wads of cash to give to various DEM campaigns.

Thanks for the helpful talking points!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:10 PM
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46. You will be able to list his accomplishments instead of his bluster by then......
Edited on Tue May-25-10 10:10 PM by FrenchieCat
I think they'll like that.

Make sure you print out all of those photos and take them with you
when educating them by making my point.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:19 AM
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48. Would your list of grand accomplishments include:
(1) Continued non-enforcement of FISA laws.
(2) That wonderful Health Care Reform that includes mandatory support of insurance companies.
(3) Continued indefinite detainment of so-called terrorists without trials and secret prisons.
(4) The continuance of two totally unjust wars that are bankrupting the nation are marvelous accomplishments.
(5) How about the financial reform that Wall Street is laughing how they pulled off a complete victory.
(6) His appointment of a commission headed by those who want to privatize Social Security and Medicare.
(7) How about rescinding the unjust income tax breaks for the wealthy, not to mention that the rates should be increased dramatically.
(8) His Bipartisanship venture that is the very bases for the all of the above fiascoes should be especially applauded.

I am sure you can add a couple more. Sorry bud, but he is rapidly becoming an insignificant bump in the history of the nation who gives pretty speeches.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 10:06 PM
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45. Too Late to Rec
Sorry bout that
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:07 PM
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49. I've had enough of the bullhorn moments!
We need some visible action - Papantonio, Carville, Firedoglake have plenty of suggestions.

I'd prefer seeing some work done on any of their agendas before another bullhorn moment.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:17 PM
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50. Now you know this president hasn't accomplished a d*mned...
thing since he's been in office, so why would you think he's doing anything other than twiddling his thumbs? The AUDACITY of you. :sarcasm: :eyes:
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