I am so damn sick of the President having to take responibilty for everyone elses screw ups

I could just spit.

Every freaking time, he steps up and takes it all on. The Buck stops here.. and deals with it the best he can.

But dammit all to hell I am sick and tired of it.

The Conservatives screw everything up.. and the media whine 24/7 while we try to clean it up, and the President has to be the fall guy for their foul ups.

I just sick and tired of it.

"Amid escalating complaints of buck-passing between the well’s owner, BP, and federal officials, Obama also said that he understands that, when it comes to ending the spill, the buck stops with him.

“In case you were wondering who’s responsible? I take responsibility. It is my job to make sure everything is done to shut this down,” Obama said, directly addressing criticism that he hasn’t been more personally involved."

.. if Obama would stop governing as a corporatist and military-industrial complex shill,
none of this would be happening now, would it?

why did Obama trust BP??? :wtf:


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jkBxAkqcVP4B6GKDbBeGz9WN_FDAD9FVB2B80
The president says his mistake was believing "the oil companies had their act together when it came to worst case scenarios."

"I was wrong," Obama says.

1) You clearly have no inkling what a corporatist is
2) You clearly have no idea what being a shill for the military-industrial complex would entail
3) You clearly have no clue about Obama or how he's running the Administration
4) You clearly have no concept of how US laws and regulations work

Just another internet progressive throwing together some buzzwords and going "Hey guys look at me aren't I cool?"

:applause:

The time for niceness is long over. This place is a toilet now and those who keep pissing on the seats need to know it.

Right on the mark there:thumbsup:

These people are not sensible progressives, they just try hard as hell to play one on the internetz

in fact.

Please tell me you are not serious...

Yes, he could have put those regulations back in place on day one. if Congress had gone along with him. Along with lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of other stuff that you guys demanded he do on day one. By day two you were howling.

See, I'm not sure you Progressives get this thing called "reality" wherein the president is, amazingly, a human being, and a fairly flawed one, all told, just like the rest of us, who's running a country of well over three hundred million people packed into over 30,000 cities spread out among fifty states and four territories, generally evenly split between two rival political ideologies, in addition to still being the top man of the - for the moment - top country in the international community.

In other words, while you have plenty of free time to sit here and bitch and moan and grab your genitals about how fucking terrible the man is for not having consulted you on day one, he is rather busy.

Frankly with all the shit on his shoulders, we're lucky he's not spending his time under his desk swigging from a bottle of MD 20/20 and barking at the curtains.

stereotypical gobbledygook!

:rofl:

BP's efforts. Instead of having BP work as GOD ALMIGHTY, we need to invite other oil industries in to help trouble-shoot shutting down these leaks. Like NOW!

stops with him in the end. that is the way it is.

We have to hang in there until the Conservatives are so long out of power until their screw-ups recede into the distant past.

If you can't stand the heat -- get out of the kitchen.

It takes balls to accept responsibility.

The way some talk about the president around here you'd think he was some weakling that needs an army of protectors.

In my opinion he could take the bull by the horns and kick it's nuts into next week's frying pan. And I don't always agree with him.

Well anyway, I agree with you.

he's accepted responsibility when needed.

the media and everyone else is 100% right to criticize him. They should be throwing Bush/Cheney policies under the bus, too, but if Obama shows no ideological contrast to that era, than he owns the current conditions of our regulatory agencies.

Our government would save money due to less fraternization between inspectors and the oil industry.

i'm sorry i'm a huge lib but like i said before this is a failure of executive leadership.....

i live in new orleans and can you tell hearing the pres say bp was going to handle it for 3 weeks was so frustrating since we all knew the oil was heading to shore soon and you had to have a plan in place to head it off....

bp is generally hated down here. mostly because they screw over the local industries but that's another story.

obama should have pulled a marcellus wallace and said fuck bp i'm sending the wolf......






as far as being a corporatist, looking more and more like it...some combination of having regulators who hare in the pocket in place still and the lack of vigor in getting them replaced....not real change here again.

i'm all for being a thinker and cerebral president, fine. but paralysis by overthinking looks to be the case....

I think you should do some reading on:

1) the history of deep water oil drilling

2) the history of deep water oil drilling disasters

3) the history of Presidents of the United States of America


I'm really stymied over the "paralysis" bullshit.

doncha know?

"obama should have pulled a marcellus wallace and said fuck bp i'm sending the wolf."

I want to make sure you understand something, Besdayz. The president has to follow the laws. Currently the laws say that he cannot do what you describe. After eight years of a president who Just Didn't Give A Fuck, I understand that even the hugest "lib" might want to toss in the towel and say "fuck it, I want our guy to do the same thing!" But no, that's a bad idea. You see, besdayz, I dunno what a lot of you self-professed "critics" think we got all up in arms with Bush over, but a huge part of it was him simply disregarding the laws and doing what he wanted.

Yes, they are bad laws. yes, they are laws hat cover the asses of people who screw the little guy. Obama did not write these laws (In fact, Carter probably has more blame to take) but he has to obey them. It would be cathartic for him to just say fuck it, and start laying down a well-deserved cocksmacking. But he can't. legally, he's restrained from doing so, until legally he isn't.

based on emotional...the people who are affected by this are going on emotion...a

people expect someone to swoop in to do something...now if you want to argue the validity of that, thats a discussion on human nature i guess....
it also may be more perception than anything else. looking like you're doing something is just as important for public opinion as doing something....

but this is not looking good so far....i misspoke if i said he is paralyzed, i think he's doing everything he can...but he's having trouble conveying that...

couple mistakes made:
1)leaving BP as the face of the cleanup
2) and more importantly not addressing the shore washup situation which is particularly to the bayou...the only chance to remove commpletely the effect of the mess on a generation of spawning fisheries is to keep it out....it looks like they couldn't do that....and it looks like they didn't try much from my view down here. the frustration is we in the gulf could see this coming for weeks. it was the first thing we thought of. and we assumed, it was going to be handled. but now its just about too late. a couple of sanctuaries and oyster reservoirs have already been hit...once it gets into lake ponchatrain its hopeless....

not to mention hurricane season started yesterday...if this is not cleaned up soon the waters will be moving the oil in so many more places at a swifter pace....




Now on the larger issue, the backdrop. yeah obama has inherited the worst condition of any president and its idiocy the blame he gets. katrina, economy, 2 wars, unemployment, cozy regulators...etc.

like i tell students, its like criticizing the guy who is trying to throw you the life raft for not getting it close enough to you. what about the fricking guy who pushed you off the boat?

in the end, as soon as people are reminded that the people trying to regain power are the authors of so much bad policy, they will come to their senses....notice how quite R's are on drilling? but for now, this needs to look like a govt all hands on deck situation...bring in the military or something.

This is a man who basically decried government involvement in volcano monitoring, and he's a well known free marketeer. The press should make the governor explain when he thinks government intervention is appropriate, and when it isn't. The governor should also have to explain what he would have done differently.

I know what to expect from the right but for the love of god I expected better from our side of the aisle.

This is a f*cking, catastrophe and it's for reasons like this that we elected THIS man over John McCain.

K & effin R, PeaceTrain.

I still want to believe that he's on the side of the environment and the people - but his choices don't show that. He can change tacks anytime he wants to.

I'd love to see someone prove me wrong and show me where Obama told Salazar to kick ass and take names to get things back to a functional level.

".... your father is one of them."

one of my favorite books and movies ever...

He might write a "strongly worded letter" expressing his disappointment, then call for us to move forward for the sake of our nation coming together...

I want to see some perp marches. And no more Salazar.

for strength and being tough.
Especially the media, who falls for anyone in a flightsuit.

But, forgetting the movie High Noon, many seem to think thoughful, nose at the grindstone and not needing to posture for the cameras all dressed up in costumes is weak

you kicking ass and taking names.

We need to stop letting BP worry about their profit margin and start clearing this shit out of there. We already have the technology to do that, and it needs to be done.

I was patient. That was a month and a half ago. Now I want some fucking action, and since bp isn't clearing it out of there, WE need to.

Of course, if you're Bush or Reagan- those adages don't apply- but we're really not interested in promoting that sort of an administration are we?

If it happens in the USA.

:sarcasm:

to intone that he is undeservedly getting flack over decisions.

Nothing is more direct than from the horse's mouth...

The president says his mistake was believing "the oil companies had their act together when it came to worst case scenarios."

"I was wrong," Obama says.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jkBxAkqcVP4B6GKDbBeGz9WN_FDAD9FVB2B80

I really think he may be the type who just has to get mad enough to finally take serious action. Like firing the head of MMS. Absolutely the right thing to do, and it cannot stop there. If these people are not helping, they have to go. And right now. No one's going to shed a tear if he does a major housecleaning.

takes responsibility to clean up other's messes. Rather than a Pretzeldent who blames others for his own screw-ups.

Other presidents have paraphrased Truman, right? Ok, maybe often blatantly obvious choreagraphed window dressed speechifying used by the seriously insincere to fit the sound bites and the subheadings but that does'nt mean He is insincerely using it, right?

JFK: 6 times
LBJ: 2 times
Nixon: 3 times
Ford: 3 times
Carter: 3 times
Reagan: 7 times
Bush41: 1 time
Clinton: 6 times
Bush43: 4 times


I mean just look at all this sincerity:
Obama is sincere about preserving our environment, our legacy to our children: ""We are not acting as good stewards of God's Earth when our bottom line puts the size of our profits before the future of our planet."
-- Oct. 14, 2007, in a speech at an interfaith forum on climate change


Brad Johnson
Think Progress, May 15th, 2009




Published on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 by TomDispatch.com
Oil Follies in the Arctic
by Subhankar Banerjee
( great read, real drama, check it out, unless of course you don't like tragedy)

but it's all good..........


"I will restore the federal government's commitment to low-income housing," "Our nation's low-income families are facing an affordable housing crisis, and it is our responsibility to ensure this crisis does not get worse by ineffective replacement of existing public-housing units."
Obama 2008



Below the Radar: HUD is Trying to Privatize and Mortgage Off All of America's Public Housing
George Lakoff
May 24, 2010
Published by Buzzflash.

but it's all good.........





Obama, the Right and defendants' rights
BY GLENN GREENWALD



"What would the Ownership Society do with the losers (if Social Security were privatized)? Unless we're willing to see seniors starve on the streets, we're going to have to cover their retirement expenses one way or another--and since we don't know in advance which of us will be losers, it makes sense for all of us to chip into a pool that gives us at least some guaranteed income in our golden years. That doesn't mean we shouldn't encourage individuals to pursue higher-risk, higher-return investment strategies. They should. It just means that they should do so with savings other than those put into Social Security."
Candidate Obama
http://www.ontheissues.org/economic/barack_obama_social_security.htm


Whacking the Old Folks
William Greider
May 24, 2010
See related: Former Obama Advisors Call Out His Hedge Fund-Staffed Deficit Commission
Published by The Nation.

hey, it's all good.......oh, wait.....shoot

If not, then he's equally to blame.

Right now people are very justifiably worried about their futures. You can get this either reading posts here, where people are losing jobs and having a very hard time getting new ones. Where costs of many things - healthcare, college have increased while incomes decreased. We are in two wars and the media has pumped up fear of a huge invasion of illegal aliens from Mexico.

The President taking ownership of every problem and calmly and quietly working with his administration of the Democratic Congress - or the private sector to find a solution is both consistent with who Obama is and why he was elected. Remember September 2008? When the economy tanked, Obama did not resort to fiery speeches blaming Wall Street and the Bush administration, he calmly led the Senate Democrats in a thoughtful effort to find the best course.

Now, I get the anger here against Carville, he deserves every criticism made. I also get that the media as a whole, not just talk radio and most of cable, really leans right. (I now understand the Republicans of the 1960 - 1970s when they saw the media leaned left - it did.) I think the worst thing they are doing now is validating the tea party, which has yet to show that they are near what the media has built them up to be. As part of that, they are building up the anger - and the percent of people willing to label themselves as angry.

However, as each crisis passes - what is the image of President Obama. For all but the rabid right, he likely will be seen as a strong, calm leader, who helped the country deal with a problem and then in the aftermath took the step that many ignore which is to assess what caused the problem and to work to prevent similar events in the future.

As to the President getting the blame - they always do. So, stepping up and accepting it is better than pushing it away. The fact is that NOTHING - even a media till at least 80% in his corner and Lieberman and Collins preventing a Senate hearing did not stop Bush from being blamed for the response to Katrina.

What the Democrats will need to do is communicate better are things they have done that have worked. This is not as simple as it sounds though because, as things still are bad, it can sound like they fixed everything - when clearly we haven't.

The president says his mistake was believing "the oil companies had their act together when it came to worst case scenarios."

"I was wrong," Obama says.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jkBxAkqcVP4B6GKDbBeGz9WN_FDAD9FVB2B80




I think that deserves some support. I'm glad he realized what so many were screaming from the get-go - what are you DOING trusting a dirty MF'ing oil giant? They blocked everyone with expertise, as we have heard repeatedly on Capitol Hill, and refused information that could have been used by REAL scientists who care about this country as much as Barack Obama does - but instead, British Petroleum was trusted. And, the president trusted them and admits he was wrong to do so. I commend him for doing something I cannot remember hearing a president do in forever!