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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:46 PM
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Jobs Numbers and the People They Represent
The President was touring K Neal International Trucks, Inc. in Hyattsville, Maryland this morning. The company is just a few miles out of DC, but it’s the kind of company in the kind of town you see all over America. After the tour he said a few words to the employees about the latest jobs numbers, which CEA Chair Christina Romer wrote about this morning:

I was talking to Stephen and he told me that rental and lease sales have improved, that there’s a pent-up demand out there for new equipment and you’ve added workers over the last few months. And Stephen said if things keep on going well, he’ll add more in the months ahead.

We’re hearing more and more stories like that all across America. A lot of businesses were hit hard during this downturn, but they’re starting to hire again. Workers who were laid off, they’re starting to get their jobs back. Companies that were almost forced to close their doors are making plans to expand and invest in new equipment.

And this progress is reflected in the monthly jobs reports that we get each month. We received one today. In May, the economy added 431,000 jobs. (Applause.) Now, this is the fifth month in a row that we’ve seen job gains. And while we recognize that our recovery is still in its early stages and that there are going to be ups and downs in the months ahead -- things never go completely in a smooth line -- this report is a sign that our economy is getting stronger by the day.

Now, I want to emphasize that most of these jobs this month that we’re seeing in the statistics represent workers who’ve been hired to complete the 2010 census. So these are temporary jobs that are only going to last until the fall, and that may be reflected in future jobs reports. But even if you put those temporary jobs aside, there’s no doubt that we saw another month of private sector job growth. And that is obviously critical because when businesses are hiring again, people start spending again. That, in turn, gives businesses more and more incentive to grow.

Now, this doesn’t mean that the recession is over for the millions of Americans who are still out of work, or the millions more who are still struggling to make ends meet. No words, no statistics, can take away the pain and the anxiety that a family feels because of this downturn. That can only be relieved with a steady paycheck and the security that a steady job brings.

What these numbers do mean, though, is that we’re moving in the right direction. The economic policies that we put in place are working. An economy that was shrinking at a scary rate when I was sworn in as President has now been growing for three consecutive quarters. We were losing 750,000 jobs a month during the winter of last year. We’ve now added jobs for six out of the last seven months.




http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/04/jobs-numbers-and-people-they-represent

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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:44 PM
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1. according to the Labor Department 411,000 of those May jobs were temporary federal jobs.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:12 PM
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3. Yes. That is why the President said:
Now, I want to emphasize that most of these jobs this month that we’re seeing in the statistics represent workers who’ve been hired to complete the 2010 census.


Fourth paragraph down in the quoted remarks in the OP.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:28 PM
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9. I'm not accusing him of lying.
But the job report is not good news in the context of the subject of "ending" the recession.

My sister got one of those jobs, and we could not be happier. Considering the wider context though, the job market is still losing real permanent full-time jobs with benefits.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:32 PM
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5. It's still stimulating to the economy
A census has to be done every ten years, and workers hired for it, and they will count as many other temp jobs were counted during the decade.

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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:24 PM
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8. but not any sort of indicator that the Great Recession is over or ending
or even improving, given that the accepted number of 150,000 jobs are needed each month just to grow with the population of workers.

Propaganda is propaganda no matter whose mouth it comes out of.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:01 PM
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2. Obama needs to stop polishing the turd when it comes to the jobs numbers. n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:20 PM
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4. What do you suggest?
Presidents are supposed to be positive and not do what Carter did. Do you want him to play down the US economy and lead to a self-fulfilling prophesy?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:33 PM
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6. Sometimes I think they are just downright cruel
posting stuff like this. There are unemployed people reading the board - they don't need gloom and doom like this.

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:24 PM
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10. I'm not trying to be cruel at all
I know people close to me that have been unemployed for well over a year so I know about the unemployment crisis first hand.

My contention is that the economy isn't recovering as well as we thought it would and the jobs picture, although much better than it was under Bush, is not as good as the President suggests.

I'm all for optimism, but it could bite Obama a few months from now if the jobs numbers continue to disappoint.

There are serious economic concerns in Europe along with China slowing down.

The LIBOR rate has been going up in recent weeks suggesting that banks are wary of lending to each other because they're not sure what's on each others balance sheets. Banks could be holding toxic sovereign debt. Not a good sign at all.

Eurozone growth estimates have been downgraded to zero and commodity prices are falling. All bad signs of slowing global growth.

Obama has to be careful because trumpeting the economy could bite him. Just look at the performance of the stock market since April.

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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:10 AM
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11. Actually, what we don't need are articles
full of happy quotes about how things are improving so much either. Oh well, so what if 5 million lose their UI benefits when they run out with not enough jobs for them. Things are improving! The media says so! Instead of extending benefits and passing good jobs legislation all the average Congress critters needs to do is hold up the latest story and say, "See? Things are improving! The recession is over! Well, those people who are still unemployed are obviously deadbeats who are too picky anyway, so they'll just get what they deserve. Move along now. Nothing important to see here."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:16 PM
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7. I don't think that statement applies to
what's happening here.

Reporting the positive news is a good thing, imv.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:35 AM
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12. Guess you haven't seen this:

Five reasons the employment numbers are worse than they seem


President Obama and Treasury Secretary Geithner were trying to putting on a happy face, but the markets weren't buying. They have tumbled worldwide since the latest payroll data.

But instead of overreacting, the markets may only just be waking up to the real bad news.

1. Look out ahead.

We already know that when you strip out the short-term Census jobs, May's jobs growth was a pitiful 41,000. But what people haven't realized is that the leading indicators for June are even worse. TrimTabs Investment Research Inc. tracks the real-time jobs picture by monitoring income tax deposits at the Treasury. And these have suddenly started falling. Based on the latest data, the firm predicts the economy will actually lose up to 200,000 jobs, net, in June. "The big news is that we have a job loss of about 200,000 coming in June," says Trim Tabs' Madeline Schnapp, "and the market isn't ready for it."

It's not just the stock market. You can bet that the administration -- and the country -- isn't ready either. Remember, we need to create about 100,000 just to keep up with population growth.

2. One and a half million people have 'disappeared'?

The government says the unemployment rate "edged down" to 9.7% -- keeping it below the politically sensitive 10% level.

But that's only because about one and a half million people have just, miraculously "disappeared" from the official labor force.

A million and a half people disappearing? It sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory. But there it is, buried in the fine print of the government's own data.

From May 2009 to May 2010, the U.S. "civilian non-institutional population" of prime working age -- 20 to 64 -- expanded by one and a half million, 180.5 million to 182 million.

Yet over the same period the official tally of the labor force over age 20 held steady at just 148 million.

<more>

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/five-ways-the-jobs-numbers-are-worse-than-bad-2010-06-08



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