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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:16 PM
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Whoever at the WH that said that Unions "wasted" $10 million can go fuck themselves
Seriously.

The WASTE WAS THE White House/DNC/DLC and whoever else that backed a REPUBLICAN in the Democratic primary - you know the person who actively railed against the White House agenda.

Jesus, she's going to lose anyway.

What the fuck is wrong with these people???
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:18 PM
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1. Maybe we should consider "wasting" some additional funds on another project.
Like putting a pro-union administration into the White House sometime.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:20 PM
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38. + Infinity (nt)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:20 PM
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2. Sounds like Rahm.
Waaaay to be the uniter! :sarcasm:
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:24 PM
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54. That was my thought
Sounds like something Rahm would say.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:29 PM
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3. What the fuck is wrong with these people??
The DC crowd lives an insular life filled with perks and power, and they tend to stick up for each other to the very end as a defense mechanism against the outside world discovering how well off they really are.

The political labels (D, R) are just for the benefit of the rubes outside of their clique, they really operate as a singular club away from the glare of the spotlight.
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Phlem Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:33 PM
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6. Huh
not unlike cockroaches.

And they scatter when you shine a light on them.

go figure.

-p
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:29 PM
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4. Anonymous white house spokesperson
Is a gossipy coward. I'd like to see them same that without anonymity.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:31 PM
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5. Politico and this anonymous person were hoping to piss off progressives and
DU is happy to oblige.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:40 PM
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10. Yeah, it is soooo hard to imagine anti-labor sentiment coming from this bunch
Plausible denial is all you got because the track record of standing up against big money on the behalf of workers and the poor is soooooooo strong.

I think working people, those that want to look after the weakest among us, the environmentalists, and those who wish to preserve and advance civil liberties are "fucking retarded" for playing along.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:02 PM
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17. Check out MediaMatters on POLITICO. The stories are often "imaginative"
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:59 PM
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47. Nice try but...
Gibbs basically echoed the sentiment. And he confirmed it came from the White House. No name though.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:07 PM
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34. wharrgarbl


I can get wound up about plenty of things, but statements from anonymous people posted on Politico don't do it for me. If you want to get wound up, have at it. Maybe it was said, maybe not. Maybe it was said by Rahm. Maybe not. I don't know so I don't care.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:01 PM
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49. yup, they suck it up like big mouth bass
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:34 PM
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7. And if someone thinks this is "triangulating" & it will eventually break in Obama's favor, they've
got another think comin' (as my Mother used to say).
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:35 PM
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8. IBTL
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:37 PM
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9. Neither Lincoln nor Halter was going to win in November... so it is wasted money spent on EITHER

The $10 million should have been spent on candidates that have a chance to win in Novemeber. Not on lost causes.
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:46 PM
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11. You’re missing the significant point here



The WH is suggesting that Lincoln is a good candidate and given that she is the incumbent who has been nothing but a thorn against major core Democratic values, that’s asinine to begin with. Add to that, the idiotic claim that the unions were “wasting” money… well the money would not have been necessary if she stepped aside and the establishment backed a Democrat. I am not seeking party purity and politics involves pragmatic solutions and certainly a conservative state means not getting everything you want from anyone who represents it – however, believing in – or at least not bashing CORE Democratic beliefs is not acceptable.

The point is that if money was “wasted” it’s the establishment’s fault. Period.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:02 PM
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50. actually, Politico is suggesting that the whitehouse has said
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:49 PM
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12. If you do not support unions, you are not a Democrat.
It's just that fucking simple.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:55 PM
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33. Maybe they are "New Democrats". You know. Like New Coke.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:07 PM
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35. New Coke tasted like Pepsi only worse
"New Democrats" act like Republicans, only worse.

Yeah, I guess it kinda fits.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 05:57 PM
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52. If you do not support Democrats, you are not a Democrat.
It's also that simple.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:52 PM
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13. This administration is doing more damage to the party than any Repuke regime could possibly do
In other words, it's a typical Democratic White House.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:28 PM
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42. Yea...the Democrats are not helping themselves in maintaining
a strong Dem coalition of voters.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:53 PM
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14. Politico = Drudge with lipstick. I would not trust Politico if its tongue came notarized
Dig around on MediaMatters. it will curl your hair

They are funded by a bunch of Right Wingers - see the wikipedia entry on them.

The like to stir up shit.

Time and time again I've seen DU explode over a Politico article, and then the next day we figure out the article was spin and bullshit.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:57 PM
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16. Yep
And Ben Smith has been a pot-stirring little shit from the moment he started working for that rag.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:53 PM
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15. It's true, they blew $100 million.
And would have blown more given the guy had no chance in the general.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:12 PM
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18. And how much did the Democratic Party "blow" on Lincoln?
And how much more money will they "blow" on her in the general?

If it's wastage when done by the unions, then it's wastage when done by the Democratic Party as well. They seem to be saying that a loss means you should not have tried in the first place.

Of course what they are really saying is, How dare you raise money for another candidate in the primary? Who the hell do you think you are? And they are using the fact that Halter lost as a moment to say "neener neener neener". Classy.

In any case, they can't use the argument that the money was wasted, without having the same argument legitimately turned back on themselves, given that Lincoln looks to have a hard time of it in the general. But we'll see -- maybe she will pull it off.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:13 PM
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19. Depends on if she wins or not.
It's wastage when the candidate loses.

That's how it works.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:44 PM
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21. Halter very nearly won...
...so it's a little disingenuous to say the day after that they threw their money away. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that...

In any case, it would seem they are trying to deliver the message that the union was wrong to use their $$ to back a candidate who is more pro-union than Lincoln. While some of us think that's exactly what primaries are for, to widen the field and provide voters with real choices.

So yes, Halter lost. But not by much. And given that Lincoln is an incumbent, she got slapped, just not hard enough.

Here's hoping the unions keep pushing.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:56 PM
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23. You are, essentially, saying that elections are a waste. -nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:33 PM
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24. No.
Losing is a waste.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:36 PM
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25. I have yet to see an election that doesn't involve someone losing. -nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:42 PM
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27. I haven't seen a major election...
that didn't involve somebody losing a shit load of money.

It's an all or nothing game.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:55 PM
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32. How much did outside Republican business groups spend on Lincoln-like Americans for Job Security.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:44 PM
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20. Don't sweat it. It was just Kenneth the White House Intern
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:48 PM
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22. Not wasted.
It was worth $10 Million to have the "Centrist" Democratic Party Leadership exposed on video spending party money, face time, and their diminishing credibility on a shamelessly Anti-LABOR/Anti-Working Class/Anti-Public Option candidate.

There can be no more phony claims that the Democratic Party Leadership is Pro-Working Class.
Their Anti-LABOR loyalty to Corporate Cash is NOW etched in stone and preserved on videotape.


What are the Pro-LABOR Democrats going to do?
Vote for a Republican?
Hahahahahahahahahaha!

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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:43 PM
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45. That picture and caption sums up for me
exactly their attitude on not only labor, but health care, the wars, and just about everything they've touched so far. Depressing.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:38 PM
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26. This is just a "some person said" thing so it has little cred
If she's going to lose, he would have, too.

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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 02:46 PM
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28. Shouldn't the subject title be.....?
"If someone at the WH that said that Unions "wasted" $10 million they can go fuck themselves"
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:27 PM
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30. It should be there are some here at DU who hate facts too......
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:14 PM
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41. Really? You think that? That's pretty naive, especially since Gibbs said as much too
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:05 PM
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29. Bambi said it...why is this an issue everytime Bambi says something like this?!?!?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:55 PM
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37. "Bambi"?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:12 PM
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43. Freeper derogatory name for Obama.......


....
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Dont TS Me Brah Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:39 PM
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31. yeah, Rahm...
President Obama is MUCH too bright to keep this weasel around much longer.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 04:12 PM
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36. Blanche Lincoln joined Ben Nelson and Holy Joe in killing public option agreement
and she voted for Wall Street bailout while opposing Main Street bailout. The American worker is tired of voting for people that won't support the interests of the workers.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:20 PM
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39. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.
I don't vote for people because they're folksy or pretty or dress well or because I'm told I have no choice because the other guy's worse even though I can see they're pushing the same policies. I vote for people because they support the same principles and issues I support and want to move the country in the direction I want the country to move.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:40 AM
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40. +1000
My simliar post was deleted, so I'll back yours!
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:37 PM
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44. Who was it? I want a name. Or is this just Politico disinformation? (nt)
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:00 PM
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48. Gibbs ain't saying
But he did confirm that the source was from the White House. And he managed to basically agree with the sentiment in the process.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:45 PM
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46. She still won. So it was a waste
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 03:45 PM by Thrill
Especially when you consider neither has a chance to win the General Election
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:09 PM
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51. What Gibbs actually said
I think that whether or not that money might have been better spent in the fall on closer elections between somebody -- between people who cared about an agenda that benefited working families and those that didn't, that money might come in more handy then.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 06:09 PM
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53. They want unions to spend money to save the
rear ends of the anti-union blue dogs.
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