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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:29 PM
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Hey, Obama, Try Embracing Labor Unions
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 06:30 PM by Dinger
You might like it.:) Just sayin'.:patriot:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:30 PM
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1. Do you remember why Labor campaigned against Lincoln in the first place?
Think about it for a minute.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:31 PM
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2. O.K., I'm Kinda Slow.
I'm unwinding now. Tell me please. I admit ignorance.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:52 PM
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8. She filibustered the public option.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:05 PM
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:29 PM
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16. Enjoy your stay
it will be a short one.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:37 PM
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18. Damn, I MIssed It (nt)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:31 PM
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3. Not interested at the moment
Get back to them in 2012.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:34 PM
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4. That Much Is Obvious
I was hoping against hope, no pun intended.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:37 PM
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5. Unrec for such an unsubstantive post.
I hate the anonymous unrec, so there I go.

Bash away.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:39 PM
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6. Whatever. At Least You're Honest (nt)
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:45 PM
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7. Did most of the labor unions back Hillary in the primary?
Not to go back to the primary, but like with anything, history is involved. IIRC, Obama and unions have NEVER been cozy cozy with one another. Of course he's president now, but you can't expect a lot of kumbaya going on.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:13 PM
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13. No they didn't, the mostly backed the President
and what does that matter anyways?
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:17 PM
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14. AFL CIO rated Obama 96, Clinton 93, with only Edwards and Kucinich rated higher.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:07 PM
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28. Before Edwards dropped out, he had the majority
of the labor support. After he left the race, they somewhat split between the two.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 06:53 PM
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:23 PM
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15. Right here on this forum every time a member of a constituency notes that they've been backstabbed!
:rofl:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:23 PM
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17. You Calling Me a freeper?
Kiss my ass.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:03 PM
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10. Hey, Dinger. Try Embracing Google. Obama was rated 96% pro-labor voting record by AFL CIO
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:43 PM
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19. Hey, This Is An Olive Branch
Labor unions would LOVE to work with the President, but it's got to be a 2-way street. I'm telling Obama to OPEN a door not close it.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:45 PM
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20. I think the problem is the fact this rumor about the WH official.
Now they've named it to be Gibbs who said that Labor wasted 10 million. However, Obama didn't really get involved in the fight down there---he went once to back her but it was Clinton who pushed her along and destroyed Union support...not Obama. However he's been given the mantle as a hater as well because of this "Gibbs" <---Which I don't believe until I see a video.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:11 PM
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12. He has done more that you think for labor
He knows they got him elected, hell they spent 150 million during his campaign
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:45 PM
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21. Yes, He Knows That
And I'm sure he knows what they spent, but like they say," What has he done for me (unions) lately?"
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:46 PM
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22. I guess all that help he gave the Auto Industry had nothing to do with Unions?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:52 PM
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24. How Exactly Did He Help Auto Industry Labor Unions?
Tell me, then we'll both know.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:53 PM
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26. He prevented countless thousands of their members from being laid off.
...and which would have also likely resulted in lost healthcare and lost pensions on top of the lost job.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:02 PM
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27. I Was Thinking More About The Fact That They Got A Fraction Of What Big Business
got in the bailout, and strings attached that big business didn't have. Has anyone heard what exactly corporations/banks & their ilk did with the money they got? The last time I heard anything about this, they weren't too anxious to account for the money they got. Seemed a little tight-lipped to me.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:26 PM
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33. Their failure would have resulted in a fraction of the catastrophe of the failure of megabanks.
If the American auto industry would have went under, that would have been pretty bad and the chain reaction of problems for related industries would have made it worse. If the megabanks would have failed, it would have been that times 100. You have to consider that the auto industry itself depends on the financial stability of these huge banks along with every other major industry in the country. I'm sure we both agree that banks should not be in a position to have that kind of leverage on society buts thats a whole other debate. So even with the shady stuff the banks have continued to do, the fact remains that of course it would take more money to bailout a much larger entity.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:38 PM
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34. To be fair, it was BUSH who gave the Banksters
the "no strings" bailout money.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:08 PM
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29. I'll let you figure it out
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 09:09 PM by Thrill
Its not that hard. Without the government's help, would their even be a UAW right now?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:24 AM
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39. By letting the Auto companies renegotiate their contract to lower wages, duh!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 07:57 AM
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40. Okeedokee! Now I Know! Yay!
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:52 PM
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25. +1, it was all a figment of our imagination.. n/t
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truthwillprevail Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:08 AM
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37. oh it had everything to do with the unions just not in the way you think
Revisionist history always gets in the way of the truth,but if your interested in the truth you might want to have a look here.


http://www.gregpalast.com/grand-theft-auto-how-stevie-the-rat-bankrupted-gm/


http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=12584
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:47 PM
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23. Wow, you really put a whole lot of thought into this post....
Edited on Wed Jun-09-10 08:49 PM by O is 44
You have not been paying attention, if you have checked the WH logs the labor heads have had so much time with this President that they might as well have an office in the west wing, and I am not exaggerating. The faux outrage on this subject is just ridiculous.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:22 PM
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30. "In little more than a year since President Obama took office..."

Remarks by AFL-CIO President Richard L. Trumka at the Lawyers Coordinating Conference June 03, 2010

<...>

This week, you have heard and will hear from courageous public officials and genuine heroes from throughout the Obama Administration. We need only think back to the days of the Bush NLRB and the September massacre to realize what a difference it makes to have Barack Obama as our President.

I want to thank you for all that you did to call out the Republicans and the Chamber of Commerce when they were blocking Craig Becker and Mark Pearce -- for all the calls, e-mails, letters to the editor, and that terrific letter to President Obama from hundreds of you -- under the banner of "Lawyers for Working Americans" -- calling on President Obama to make recess appointments for Craig and Mark. It is so important to know that you are out there and we can count on you.

In little more than a year since President Obama took office, we have achieved more than appointments. We stood with the President and the Democratic leadership in Congress to pass historic health care reform—bringing health insurance to tens of millions of Americans, improving benefits for union members and holding insurance companies accountable—it's been a goal of the labor movement since the 19th century. That legislation is just the beginning of change in health care. And we are on the verge of passing comprehensive financial reform, including key components of labor's agenda like regulation of hedge funds and derivatives, and giving our pension funds real power in the board rooms of the corporations we own.

more


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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:49 PM
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32. Trumka Today:
"Taking a two-term incumbent in deep red Arkansas into a runoff, and coming within a few thousand votes of her, is a virtually unprecedented achievement. If working families were able to accomplish this in Arkansas, imagine what they can achieve in other states."
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 08:04 AM
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41. That has nothing to do with the President. n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 09:40 PM
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31. They need to make up already. Sheesh. Dems are their own worst enemy sometimes.
It is Arkansas, Lincoln barely won her primary but she did win, it is more conservative there. Now, if it was a more moderate state, Unions could be used more effectively. The WH official was rude and should not bad name the Unions. The Unions were a bit naive (I mean, it is Arkansas) and I was not enamored with Halter who was slightly less worse then Blanche. Progressive? Hardly.
Sometimes I just want to put people in a room and yell at them, all of them.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 10:47 PM
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35. how about working with black voters
to build a stronger coalition in southern states were there isn't a dominant union presence?

Just asking.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:22 PM
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36. He can't.
The Wall Street Banks wouldn't like that.
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carsonscorner Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:09 AM
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38. Obama is making a mistake, for sure!
If it wasn't for unions, he wouldn't be president. Obama is afraid to go to the left.

Last week on my radio show- the only fm progressive show in NJ- I spoke with the President of the largest teachers unions in NJ.


Following up on his pledge to fight Governor Christie's radical agenda, Bob Carson, host of New Jersey's only FM progressive radio show, Carson's Corner, spoke with The NJEA President, Barbara Keshishian.( In addition to her years with the NJEA, Barbara Keshishian is also a representative on the National Council of State Education Associations (NCSEA) and has contributed her expertise to a whole host of groups, organizations, and boards in hopes of bettering our children's education.) Find out Barbara's response to the Christie's last minute rejection of the $ 400 million "Race to the Top" program. Is this a sign of poor leadership? Also, Barbara gives her response to the documentary titled, " The Cartel"- a biased look at the New Jersey public education system. What does Barbara want people to know about New Jersey's education system that perhaps the pro-Christie media doesn't want you to know? Tune in to find out. Segment 1: Rush Limbaugh married again for the 4th time? What does it take to get Elton John in the same room with Rush Limbaugh? Segment 2: Lying Liz Cheney is at it again. Cheney claimed on Abc's This Week that Halliburton had nothing to do with the BP oil spill. Bob calls Cheney's bluff. Segment 3: Is Obama softening his tone on Arizona's anti-hispanic law? Bob gives his thoughts on this and the mural controversy

http://bobcarson13.podomatic.com/player/web/2010-06-07T14_56_58-07_00
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