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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:10 AM
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"Census may have dragged down hiring in private sector in May"
Census may have dragged down hiring in private sector in May

By Ian Swanson - 06/10/10 06:00 AM ET
Predictions that hiring by the Census Bureau would artificially boost May jobs numbers turned out to be wrong; when the numbers came out last week, they were horrible — at least at first glance.

But according to an analysis by JPMorgan Chase, public-sector hiring may actually have had the opposite effect to the one predicted, artificially depressing the numbers by crowding out private-sector hiring. So there may be reason for optimism.

This year’s census is unusual: It’s the only time in six censuses that private-sector payrolls actually increased during the month when Census hiring was at its peak, says the research note, written by Michael Feroli.
The Census hired 411,000 temporary workers in May, helping the unemployment rate drop from 9.9 percent to 9.7. But the report was widely considered a disappointment because private firms only hired 41,000 workers. Private forecasts had anticipated more than three times that number.

Over the last 50 years, private-sector employment declined in the month when Census hiring was at its greatest, according to the research note. It predicts that hiring in June will make up for the shortfall, and the economy could see 150,000 private-sector jobs added to the rolls.

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One reason to believe it’s not a coincidence, however, is that the Census hires part-time workers, a smaller subset of the unemployed population that consists of around 2 million people. Feroli writes that it can be tougher for the Abercrombie and Fitch at the local mall, for example, to replace a college student who goes to work for the Census with an unemployed auto worker, who may have little interest in part-time work.

In addition, the impact of the Census delays the ability of businesses to hire workers, which could have a large effect on the monthly employment number, according to Feroli.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/102355-census-may-have-dragged-down-private-sector-hiring



Related: Retail hiring http://www.kronos.com/pr/kronos-retail-labor-index-shows-retail-hiring-lagging-behind-other-signs-of-economic-recovery.aspx">lagged in May.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:14 AM
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1. This sounds like utter horsecrap to me...
I don't believe this theory at all.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:20 AM
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2. I agree with you
:wtf:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:23 AM
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3. And the people who work for the Census get paid, and buy products.
And that helps businesses and increases their need for employees.

Of course, in a largely-fully-employed economy, that CAN make it harder to find employees; but that's good because it will put pressure on wages to increase.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:41 AM
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8. People seem to think the more than 350,000 Census workers are getting paid with monopoly money.
Remember "tell it to the person without a job"?

Yeah, tell the 411,000 people who got a job this month that it means nothing.

One jobs report is not a trend, but a job is a job.

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:23 AM
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4. Why?
do you have some contrary data?
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:28 AM
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6. Why? Because 15 million people are without jobs so the potential workforce is huge
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 10:28 AM by no limit
The theory makes no sense to me
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:07 AM
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9. That's why private hiring increased, unlike all the other times when it decreased during peak census
Look at the increase in hours worked for May. The demand for labor did increase, it was just filled by existing more workers working more hours this month.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:01 PM
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12. But they are presenting facts and causal links as explanation
so me, the third party in your disagreement...i think they are making a stronger case.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:44 PM
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16. Plop! plop. Ploppity plop plop.
That is the way it usually sounds when my horse craps. This sounds more like explosive human diarrhea of the human mouth.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:23 AM
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5. With 15 M+ people unemployed, their reasoning makes no sense.
At full employment, may be, but each job gets hundreds of application these days.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:37 AM
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7. What's that SMELL? Where's the stable anyway?
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 10:38 AM by Donnachaidh
Put on your hipwaders folks - here comes another wave of *Economy bad? NOT our fault* postings.... It's likely to get REAL deep. :rofl:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 11:17 AM
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10. Surprise anger from Donna
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:43 PM
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11. surprise snark from Moran
:yawn:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 03:49 PM
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13. ...says the snarqueen
:P
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:30 PM
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14. Fucking stupid theory in light of the labor market conditions.
That bullshit might get some traction in a tight market but right now it's a laughable idea.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 04:41 PM
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15. Horseshit.
If Abercrombie is having problems finding college students to work there, it's more likely because of the unGodly stench of cologne that permeats that place.
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