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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:19 PM
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Ezra Klein: Unemployment may be at 9.7%, but the Senate is moving on
Political cowardice, plain and simple. Rollcall vote here: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00190
Unemployment may be at 9.7%, but the Senate is moving on

Or, at the least, they care about the deficit more. By a vote of 52 to 45, the Senate rejected a jobs package that would've extended unemployment insurance, offered some tax breaks to individuals and businesses, kept doctors in the Medicare program and more. "$77 billion or more of this is not paid for," said Sen. Ben Nelson, "and that translates into deficit spending and adding to the debt, and the American people are right: We've got to stop doing that."

No, sir, they're wrong, and we don't.pi] It's hard to say this loudly enough, but it really doesn't make sense to offset stimulus spending, at least in the short term. The point of the money is to get the economy moving faster, to give people cash to spend. This isn't like health-care reform, where you're purchasing something and you should pay for it. When you're trying to expand the economy, you need to use debt to put more money into it than would otherwise be there. If you're just moving a dollar from one purpose to another, you may be using that dollar better, but you're not expanding the total amount of demand in the economy by very much. You're just moving it around. It would be like bailing water from a boat, but throwing it into another part of the boat.

There'll come a time when we need to start reducing the deficit. If we can get the economy back into gear, that time might even be soon. But for now, increasing the size of the deficit isn't some nasty side effect of stimulus spending. It is, quite literally, the point of the enterprise.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:25 PM
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1. I have yet to hear an economist say that we shouldn't do short term stimulus
at the expense of adding to the debt. Nearly everyone says that long-term spending is unsustainable, but we have to get the economy jolted.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:25 PM
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2. Pathetic......
What the fuck is wrong with Feingold? I'd ask the same thing about my own Senator Menendez, but he's already disappointed me countless of times alrady.

Every one of those D bastards deserves to lose when up for re-election. I honestly don't give a shit any more if it costs us the majority. What good is that majority if we refuse to use it on anything that matters, without having to bend and twist to suit republicans and "centrist" dems.
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 05:26 PM
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3. list of the D "Nays"
Bayh (D-IN), Nay
Begich (D-AK), Nay
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Webb (D-VA), Nay


Lincoln (D-AR), Not Voting (would have been Nay anyway)

and all the republicans of course.
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:09 PM
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4. Why did Feingold, Kohl, McCaskill and Menendez vote no?
I have a tough time believing that that deficit concerns were the reasons for their votes.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:19 PM
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5. The Senate are a collection of Evil Old Fucks
they need to be made into a rubber stamp.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:23 PM
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6. Here come da double dip
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 08:23 PM by depakid
Perhaps the Senate is looking for another one of these to "save the day?"



Among the many things Americans don't recognize is that other western nations like Australia don't place time limits on Unemployment benefits and have other safety nets in place. Yet another reason why their populations are healthier and more secure- and their overall economies stronger and better adapted to downturns in the business cycle.
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