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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:22 AM
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Stop comparing Obama to Bush.
Stop with the "look what he inherited" crap. If he wasn't up for the job he shouldn't have run for the office. I've even heard it suggested that we should forgo elections and merely hand Obama a second term because "it's gonna take more than 4 years to clean up Bush's mess". Bullshit. What has he done in the one year he's been President? Nada. Oh sorry, he gave Wall Street a blank check all the while standing by as jobs continue to be siphoned off over seas. Equal rights for the LBGT community. How's the underside of that bus looking for you? Patriot Act? Bush Redux. Expanding overseas wars? Bush Redux Redux.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:24 AM
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1. When he does Bushlike stuff, he has to be called on it.
So, no.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:25 AM
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2. fail nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:27 AM
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3. Funny flamebait.
n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:33 AM
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4. Ending the Iraq war. Will end Afghanistan war by 2011. Prohibited use of torture. (more-->)
Edited on Thu Dec-03-09 10:41 AM by ClarkUSA
"Obama's claim to a fertile first year doesn't rest on health care alone. There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression. Should the stimulus have been larger? Should it have been more weighted to short-term spending, as opposed to long-term tax cuts? Would a second round be a good idea? Pundits and policymakers will argue these questions for years to come. But few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter.

When it comes to foreign policy, Obama's accomplishment has been less tangible but hardly less significant: He has put America on a new footing with the rest of the world. In a series of foreign trips and speeches, which critics deride as trips and speeches, he replaced George W. Bush's unilateral, moralistic militarism with an approach that is multilateral, pragmatic, and conciliatory. Obama has already significantly reoriented policy toward Iran, China, Russia, Iraq, Israel, and the Islamic world." http://www.slate.com/id/2236708/?from=rss


Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace

Order the closing of Guantanamo Bay

Prohibit use of torture

Obama Orders Secret Prisons and Detention Camps Closed

Obama Sets Bold New Principles for U.S. Energy, Climate Policies

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act

The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act

Omnibus Public Lands Management Act

Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program Act of 2009

Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009 or FERA (PDF)

Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009

Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act of 2009 (Kerry-Lugar includes funding for Obama's global poverty initiative)

Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009

End of 22-Year Discriminatory Travel Ban

Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act

Stopping Conflict-related Sexual Violence Against Women and Children

The UN, Women & Girls

New policy steps towards Cuba

Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia

Strategy to address the international nuclear threat

For the Media: "30+ Reasons Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize"

Russia on Nobel Peace Prize: Obama thawing 'second cold war'

World Reaction to Obama Winning the Nobel

Turkey, Armenia sign historic accord

Why the Stimulus Worked

Green jobs for real people: The story behind the recovery numbers

Obama's Plan: Financial Regulatory Reform: A New Foundation (PDF)

Requiring Strong Supervision And Appropriate Regulation Of All Financial Firms (pdf)

Strengthening Regulation Of Core Markets And Market Infrastructure (pdf)

Strengthening Consumer Protection (pdf)

Providing The Government With Tools To Effectively Manage Failing Institutions (pdf)

Improving International Regulatory Standards And Cooperation (pdf)

House Panel Moves Derivatives Toward Obama’s Proposal

FACTBOX: Major U.S. financial regulation reform proposals

Obama says Senate bill on tax havens would stop abuses

Statement by President Barack Obama on House and Senate Introducing Legislation to Crack Down on Overseas Tax Havens

Obama to chair historic U.N. council nuclear meeting

G20 to Become Forum for Global Economic Cooperation

Next comes Obama's budget, health care reform and more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8730317&mesg_id=8730317


New Obama Policy Bars THOUSANDS of Lobbyists From Federal Advisory Panels
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/26/AR2009112602362.html

Approved Stem-Cell Research
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1209/first_wave_of_stem_cells_f3696ffa-5f62-465a-991c-1575e4a149b6.html

And the list goes on... :)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:41 AM
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6. You're wasting your time. Arcadian thinks Dennis Kucinich won the election.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:45 AM
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7. lol! Is that what her problem is? Nonetheless, a few FACTS would be refreshing amid the OP's BS.
:hi:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:17 AM
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13. I'm not really a big Kuchinich fan, actually.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:47 PM
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23. Clearly. A real fan would know how to spell his name. That wasn't the point.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:15 AM
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12. End War in Afghanistan by 2011? Do you have a link to that? All I've
seen is that some troops will start coming home then.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:40 AM
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5. He's doing just fine. You're the one with the problem.
Remind me -- when in 2009 was it that we invaded Afghanistan? Oh, I'm sorry. It wasn't 2009.

So, Obama did inherit this problem? Ok, we straightened that out.

And he campaigned to immediately withdraw all troop immediately after his inauguration, right? Oh, wait. He campaigned to draw down in Iraq and escalate in Afghanistan. Which he is doing.

Now I'm lost: What exactly is your problem again?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:23 AM
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16. inherit? You sound as if he is some sort of King, not an elected official.
I know he is royalty to a lot ofDUers but, come on. :eyes:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:46 PM
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22. Try this: "The problem existed when he assumed office." See? All better!
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:55 AM
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8. Presidents will always be compared to each other
The argument lies in how one rates each in the comparision.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:04 AM
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9. If you truely cannot see the difference between Obama and Bush...
no one can help you.
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:12 AM
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11. Obama gives better speaches and...
... :shrug:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:19 AM
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14. Your avatar is so ironic.
If you can't see that... no one can help you.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:35 AM
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17. I opposed the Iraq war from the beginning. I marched in three anti-war protests in DC..
I am against stupid baseless wars like Iraq. Afghanistan is different. Sometime peace is worth fighting for.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:10 AM
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10. "he gave Wall Street a blank check...
all the while standing by as jobs continue to be siphoned off over seas"

Do you know the date of the TARP bill's passage or AIG bailout?

And are you blaming job losses to outsourcing back to the Clinton administration on the Obama administration?

Can you see why many of us in the reality based community don't take a lot of the Obama bashing seriously?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:20 AM
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15. reality based?
You spend an awful lot of time in the Dungeon. Care to rephrase that?
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:15 PM
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18. see politifact for promises kept, etc. to see what he has done. link below.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:17 PM
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19. Thanks... saved me from having to find the link.
Although I do not agree with quite a few of his decisions, Obama has delivered on quite a bit of what he promised.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:29 PM
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20. no problem! There are many issues to look at, not just afghanistan,
and although I don't like his decision on the war, I believe he will still serve us well and push dem policy as best he can, given time.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:31 PM
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21. On the matter of Afghanistan he has adopted the Bush Doctrine.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:49 PM
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24.  Fucking Flamebait just like the other one that got locked.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 02:50 PM
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25. Yep
So f**king sick of this shit.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:40 PM
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26. You didn't even vote, so what are you complaining about?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7117704&mesg_id=7117947
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:57 PM
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27. Then fucking run for President of the United States.
When you figure out that you can't handle it, then maybe you'll stop pissing on Obama. This stupid shit gets old.
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