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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:42 PM
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Poll question: The elections are about four months away. What should Democrats campaign on:












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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:45 PM
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1. Carly Fiorina's golden parachute n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:45 PM
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2. I voted Other. Local issues dominate the elections in Indiana
including a GOP supported constitutional referendum that would freeze property taxes to such low levels that public schools, public libraries, public transportation, and anything with "public" in it will be left to wither on the vine for lack of funds.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:42 PM
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15. I've heard that Dems will emphasize local issues this year.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:48 PM
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3. They should run on:
Low unemployment, ending the wars, holding the bush administration accountable, closing Gotmo, repealing DADT....


I guess health care and the trusty 'we're not repukes'.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:58 PM
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4. "Low unemployment, ending the wars, holding the bush...accountable, closing Gotmo, repealing DADT.."
Do you think these will be effective against the Republicans?

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:00 PM
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5. It would be effective to voters.
Voters like results more than anything else.

As long as unemployment is high, the wars escalate and promises are unfulfilled, people will see the Dems as ineffective.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:03 PM
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6. "As long as unemployment is high, the wars escalate...people will see the Dems as ineffective."
So you think the Democrats should campaign on things that will make them appear ineffective?

Still, they could campaign on withdrawing troops from Iraq.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:13 PM
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9. "Still, they could campaign on withdrawing troops from Iraq."
We have two months to get 42,000 out of Iraq. We'll see if we have that to run on.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:03 PM
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7. That's how you get Democrats to vote for Democrats
I know it is hard to recognize for many. But that is what they need to say where Democrats live. If they think they can get elected with Republican votes, they can feel free to oppose those things, and get those votes instead. Because they'd not get mine.
I think part of the point of that post is that we need to run on what we are doing, and what we will get done, not on a bunch of half baked already finished business that really did not impress the heck out of the voters. Even if those things had been wildly popular, running on your laurels rather than your vision is a huge error unless the majority of the voters are very content with the state of things.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:07 PM
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8. "not on a bunch of half baked already finished business that really did not impress"
So you think running on promises is the way to go? For example, the promise to hold Bush accountable? You think Americans would believe them? Would you?



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:14 PM
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10. You are missing our points.
The Dems screwed the pooch. They didn't get done what they should have to sail to electoral victories. They don't have much to run on, that is my point.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:17 PM
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11. "They don't have much to run on"
What do the Republicans have to run on? Is it more than the Dems?

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:21 PM
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12. That is our saving grace.
It is still well remembered how horrible the repukes are.

We will come out ok this fall. But, if there are not clear and real results by 2012 (especially on jobs), we'll be in trouble.

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Vampire Knight Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:49 PM
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21. That is the point, though,
of the Tea Party candidates. They can say that they are not Dems and they are not the old guard Repubs either.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:51 PM
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22. There aren't very many of them.
They wed themselves to wackos and will never be anything more than spoilers in a few races.
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Vampire Knight Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:48 PM
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20. Public discontent.
That's what they'll run on. They're going to say: "look how much stuff sucks right now. We're in debt up to our eyeballs, states are going bankrupt, unemployment continues to rise, the Gulf of Mexico is fouled, blah blah blah. And it's the Democrats' fault. Pick us. We're the cure somehow. We have no plan, but we're not them". It tends to work.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 04:39 PM
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26. Really?
They tried to run on repealing health care. That's not working out so well. They thought they could run against the stimulus, except they're using it to campaign on.

The Republicans will no doubt grasp for straws, but most Americans blame Bush and still blame them for the economic crisis.

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Vampire Knight Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:01 PM
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45. I'm not sure how much of that's true
and how much of it is wishful thinking on our part. At least as far as the latter is concerned. I think as far as HC was concerned, they probably thought that it was going to have some negative consequences by now that they could harp on. Maybe if things don't turn around by 2012, they can make that argument stick better. As far as blaming Bush, if the Democratic leadership doesn't realize soon that that sentiment has an expiration date, it may not bode well in the near future. You could say and perhaps prove that a previous President screwed the country for 100 generations, but on the other hand, you're telling them in the campaign that you're the man or woman to fix it. And eventually, you're going to have to look like you're doing something. You can't just say "vote for me out of spite: I can't fix the problem but at least I'm not the other guys". Won't work long.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:05 PM
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46. "As far as blaming Bush,..
if the Democratic leadership doesn't realize soon that that sentiment has an expiration date, it may not bode well in the near future."

That's likely true, but I doubt that it will expire by the election. Most people acknowledged it would take years, but it's hard to be patient when things are improving at a slow pace.



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Vampire Knight Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:26 PM
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47. Indeed. Things are quite precarious.
And on top of that, our own recovery can be altered by the success or failure of those of other countries.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:35 PM
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13. It is the economy, the economy, and the economy.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 02:36 PM by RBInMaine
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:59 PM
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35. Yes, and Republicans are still blamed and seen as obstructionists.
Not that Republicans care.



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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 09:29 AM
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48. This is the argument that Dems need to hammer home loud and clear.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:06 PM
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27. Isn't pointing out all the negatives, when campaigning, usually the job of the opposition?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:37 PM
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32. Yes.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:14 PM
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36. I posted what they could have run on, what they should be running
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 06:14 PM by tekisui
on. Instead all we have is a watered down health care bill that won't show results for several years.

Voters have to see results to stick with the Dems.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:50 PM
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40. The OP asked what we should be running on
how is it helpful to list what we can't run on?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:57 PM
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42. It was sarcasm, sorry you missed it.
The Dems have little to run on. I still think they will maintain majorities in both houses, but they can't exactly point to the unemployment rate as a reason to support them.

Voters make decisions based on results. Most people remember how bad it was under bush. But, this is the last election that will carry that effect. Dems are going to have produce clear and observable results to hold majorities in 2012.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:40 PM
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14. Campaign on telling other Democrats that they have no where else to go.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:45 PM
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16. Eternal war, Corporate bailouts, cutting "entitlement programs", targeting for assassinat ion n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 02:47 PM
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17. I know people do not want to hear this.. but look what we are running against
Scary does not even begin to describe the current Republican Party.. They have spent the last 16 years purging their party of RINOS and anyone capable of looking at things beyond a partisan point of view, and put in place, people who literally border on fascist.



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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:41 PM
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19. They are fascist. It is how far right they have gone.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:10 PM
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18. So far it seems campaigns based on local issues have been successful.
As opposed to a national referendum where ideology barks the loudest.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:53 PM
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23. For Senate races; harp on the filibuster and Republican misuse of it
A vote for a Republican is a vote for obstruction.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 03:54 PM
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24. privatizing, union-busting, and firing all 4 million teachers. nt
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besdayz Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 04:28 PM
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25. aa
run on honesty...

as in we're in a lot of shit but at least we're not the GObP
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:14 PM
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28. None of the above.
The main thing on people's minds are JOBS!!! What they want to hear is what the Democrats are going to do to create jobs. The rest is way down the line.

;-)




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:16 PM
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29. How about a
graphic?




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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:35 PM
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31. Yeah, I'm sure that this graph is going to be of consolation to the millions who are unemployed.
:eyes:


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:40 PM
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33. You think the Parties campaigning will be a consolation? n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 05:55 PM by ProSense
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:44 PM
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34. What would console them?
The Dems can't hire them. And we can't run on "low unemployment" because it isn't low. But we can run on Republicans blocking benefits for all those unemployed people.


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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 05:18 PM
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30. one focus would win above all others, IMO
job creation.

Focus on creating jobs, and even better, DO something about it before the election, and the Dems will win.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:15 PM
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37. OTHER: How "bipartisan" we are.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 06:16 PM by tom_paine
:rofl:

THAT will get the centrists to admire our fortitude and the Repugs who hate us to vote for us! THAT will fill the "little people" who canvass streets and phone bank filled with high morale and get up and go!

:rofl:

Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from screaming.

:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:25 PM
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38. It could work.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 06:26 PM by ProSense
Remember when Democrats played up the Roadblock Republicans?

Despite the naysayers, that strategy took out Coleman, Dole and Sununu.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:52 PM
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41. OK, then
:rofl:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:36 PM
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39. "we're not batshit crazy like Republicans"
Is the best argument that they have left.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:34 PM
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43. JOBS and how the Deficit Hawks want to send us back into Recession.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:36 PM
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44. Can't campaign against deficit hawks.
Feingold is one of the biggest in the Senate.

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