Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who on here would be agreeable for the US to shut down its

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 06:58 PM
Original message
Who on here would be agreeable for the US to shut down its
military bases world wide and use the money for education and other social services. By the way, who elected the US to police the world.

Bring the troops out of Afghanistan as that is a lost cause, Bin Laden is dead. He must be god to survive on dialysis on the mountains.

And get the troops out of Iraq, but you fucked it up, eh Bush, why you invaded? And they call it a war, stick to reason, it was a fucking invasion!

The G8 is another party to meet and greet!

Nothing will come out of the G8, the G20 will make more of an impact in world politics!

Peace
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:07 PM
Response to Original message
1. Ab-so-fucking-lutely. In a heart beat.
Goddammit
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Thank you, but the leaders of the so called free world have no idea
that other countries are rising up and will have a say.

Fuck them bases, bring home the troops and use the money for educating Americans!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
11. So far, no one agreeable for the US to shut down military bases
across the world. I say, shut the bases down and use the money for education and social services in the US.

Why does the US need to have so many military bases, bring the soldiers home, do not escalate troops in Afghanistan and do not build military babes in Iraq.

For fuck's sake, the US killed Sadaam, who trying george bush for war crimes?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. I totally agree with you, The US spend so much money on military
bases world wide that it is sick. Close the bases down and use the money for education and social services.

I have no idea why the American people are not advocating for this. I ask again, who elected the US to police the world?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:08 PM
Response to Original message
2. yes
we have the technology to watch countries remotely. Why bother sending troops?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Boys and girls are really easy to send on the front line. Notice none of
them going to Invasion?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:10 PM
Response to Original message
4. That would be a dream come true!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:11 PM
Response to Original message
5. I don't believe that money is fungible
It's not like there's a big pot o' money and if you don't use it on one thing it could be used for another. The federal budget in a country of this size is more complex than many of us can even imagine, and the rules for allocating it are arcane. There would be economic impact of vast proportions and a lot of jobs lost.

Of course, I'm all for reducing the Pentagon budget and spending more on education. But it's a process, not a simple, abrupt shifting of the shells in a game.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Frazzed, where you work? If a budget is underspent, it can be used
for another lucractive project. Shut the fucking war machine down and get Education and Social Services back.

No more war, bring the troops home and shut down all the fucking military bases the US thinks it needs to be protected. For fuck sake, the US bombed Grenada! Need, I say more?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. huh?
Of course money is fungible in a fiat currency regime. It's unlimited, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. It's operating funds, why wouldn't it be fungible?
The majority is salaries. I suppose some capital order commitments are in there. ??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 07:57 PM
Response to Original message
9. Who wouldn't be agreeable to that. Plus, you are correct that
Bin Laden is dead. Benazir Bhutto confirmed that fact shortly before her assassination. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg Certainly explains why we have shown videos of a purported Bin Laden that were obvious fakes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41UAnkQARFs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. His ass is dead and the US want to still capture him. Waste of fucking
time and soldiers like. My advice, the Russians conceded defeat, who would a think America can succedd. Leave the place and stop getting our soldiers killed!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 08:28 PM
Response to Original message
12. only if we can spend SOME of that money on KY so the rest of the world could...
.... ya know. .... easier.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:19 PM
Response to Original message
15. So what do we do with the non-working military? Republicans won't like the idea of money for free.
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. Tell them the GOP said the government doesn't create jobs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. ...
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
16. In a heartbeat.
Edited on Mon Jun-28-10 01:34 AM by JoeyT
But we'd have to keep the military employed as military here at home, which would still be a hell of a lot cheaper than what we're doing now. The job market is already strained to (and maybe beyond) the breaking point: Dumping a few hundred thousand more unemployed into it would make it an even worse mess.

Of course if we're going to spend the money anyway, we could always use them for infrastructure improvements in this and other countries. The military has a lot of people trained in things that would be REALLY useful for developing countries. Water purification for starters.

Edited to add: I'm guessing there would be much lower rates of PTSD among people that were coming home saying "Because of me a village had clean drinking water.".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 06:02 AM
Response to Original message
17. It's a better choice than
allowing the social safety net to deteriorate and education to decline worse than it already has. There is no justification for this worldwide presence anyway. There was at least some justification when there was an ongoing cold war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 06:24 AM
Response to Original message
18. If we lived in a Democracy I would have hope for that to happen.
The people do not run the show here, and the people who do won't be closing any bases, directing any aid to the people or fixing any infrastructure in the U.S.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 09:23 AM
Response to Original message
19. Im for it, but i think Bin laden is alive and i want him dead
Every other conflict is bullshit in my opinion. Bring em home and close the bases.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 11:55 AM
Response to Original message
21. We're facing more slashing of the budget of our public schools here in Portland
They might eliminate all PE teachers, K through middle school.

And yet we have plenty, PLENTY of money, I tell ya, for Iraq and Afghanistan because it's so important that we, um, ... wait, what are we supposed to be doing there again?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 06:01 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC