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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:35 AM
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Why does the Gay community get shat on all the time? They voted
for President Obama with 'Hope and Change' and 'Yes we can'?

Hope this does not get locked as I was hoping DADT and DOMA would have been repealed by now! Do not tell me it is too soon to address these two fundamental issues?

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:40 AM
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1. You solve their problems, you lose your carrot
They are motivated and are easily mobilized. Better to keep em that way
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:44 AM
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2. Creepy!
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:47 AM
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3. Ditto for us atheists.
Edited on Sat Jul-17-10 01:48 AM by onager
We must have been as happy as the gay community with our big Inaugral gift - the Christo-fascist, gay-bashing blowhard Rick Warren pontificating away on the podium.

Oh well. At least the Prez acknowledged our existence.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:57 AM
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6. onager, I was shocked when I heard Rick Warren was going to
speak but that is now water under the bridge, let it go! No point being angry, let's see how the President will conduct himself regarding DADT and DOMA! You were pissed and me too then, like what was he thinking!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:03 AM
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10. Rick Warren is now 'water under the bridge'?
Rick Warren was among those evangelists that supported the death penalty for gays in Uganda.

Rick Warren will never be "water under the bridge."
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:06 AM
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15. When was Rick Warren elected to public office? n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:51 AM
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:53 AM
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5. Please do not beat me up and I do not speak for the President of the !
corporate USA!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 03:47 AM
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9. Republicans
That was surprisingly easy.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 02:42 AM
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7. There was little serious hope of repealing DOMA.
There is just not enough support for it in either house of Congress. It is a problem that does not primarily have anything to do with Obama, though obviously he has not been particularly helpful.

DADT is getting done, probably, though repeal appears to first require a nonsensical and homophobic "review" process, due to recalcitrants in the military and the Senate.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 02:51 AM
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8. 60+ in the Senate the whole world change in '08 we never got 60 and when ...
Edited on Sat Jul-17-10 02:52 AM by ProgressOnTheMove
one formed by luck it was a mirage if you added Lieberman and Nelson to the mix. It ha to be 60+ so we can avoid any potential loss by illiness or retirement. Yes we can, yes we must 2010 every good and true thing we want to happen hinge on it this November.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:28 PM
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:35 AM
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12. DADT IS in the process of getting repealed.
That much is well known news at this point. If you can't accept the fact that a President needs more than a year and a half to reverse laws that are ultimately a result of deeply seeded, extremely strong anti-homosexual bigotry that is as old as the nation itself, I can't help you on that. I don't doubt for a second that if the Senate put bill on his desk tomorrow that set all the wrong things right in regards to all institutionalized injustices against gay Americans, that President Obama would sign it.

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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:53 AM
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13. I am so happy to hear that. Oh please, I know it takes time to repeal
laws but both you and I know that some Dem Senators are not so supportive of President Obama! Hence, the stall on many repeals.

Don't beat me up bro, am on your side, but since I don't know the laws of your land, I'll keep quiet!

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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:21 AM
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17. This country is still in the middle of the transition of accepting homosexuality.
Thats what it really comes down to. And honestly, we have came a long way just in the past decade, in my opinion. The attitude towards gay people in the media, in movies, in music and even with the average joe walking down the street, has improved considerably compared to what it was when I was a teenager. But we still have a ways to go. Its been that way with every civil rights movement in this country. Every group of people that had to deal with being discriminated against by the laws of the land due to our society acceptance of it, have had to deal with the generational resistance to their ascendance to equal rights. But with enough time, we get past this shit. We just have to have enough of us exposed to it. Thats the way it was with women getting the same rights as men as thats the way it has gone with African Americans and other minorities being allowed the chance to elevate themselves to the same heights that this country once reserved for white people.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:08 AM
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16. Not to mention Obama has addressed the issue
in the State of the Union no less!
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:05 AM
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14. Why "shat" on Obama considering it is only Congress, not the president
who holds the power to repeal the laws of the land.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 03:25 AM
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18. because a lot of bigots vote for other bigots which makes it harder to progress
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