Come on Kathy Griffith this ain't cool leave the mans kids alone

time to heal.... I am sure she can come up with jokes about a tall girl who wears seashells for a bra and the one who was on idol, without accusing them of being prostitutes, once she gets her mojo back. I think saying one's daughters are "available" is like waving a red cape in front on a heartbroken D- list comic.

Brown's comment was idiotic - and he heard from his daughters on it by all accounts. However, as awkward as that was, it was just an awkward comment from a dad who is clearly proud of and loves them.

If this were a comment made about daughters of a Democrat, I doubt anyone here would find it funny. These are real people and from all accounts, they are nice kids. (One of my kids has a friend, who remembers the younger from grade school and liked her. She had no memory of the parents.)

As to Griffin being upset by being dumped publicly - that whole relationship seemed more a publicity stunt by both of them.

:sarcasm: emoticon? I think we need :seriously: and :I really mean it: emoticons too.

Not only is it disgusting - there's absolutely no joke here. Just because she is outrageous does not make this humorous.

What is the matter with this country that we can only think in black and white...and I'm not talking about race. What happened to our ability to look at the whole picture and take all things into consideration.

These girls are adults, they are in the public eye, if they are joked about by a comedian...then get over it! If they were 17 and Oprah or any other serious person called them prostitutes...that would be whole different story. And if you can't see that then try some mind expansion exercises.

If I were in the public eye and Joe Biden called me stupid, I would be hurt. If Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh called me stupid I's say who gives a crap!

significantly since the ris eof the Neocons!

It seems nobody can take a joke anymore and it pisses me off!

Would something like that have been said of RFK's daughters in the late 1960s? The fact is that what is allowed has greatly increased.

I don't get why any woman would defend this. It really doesn't matter that no one would take it seriously. Not to mention, there is no joke in it.

I am sometimes amused by people like you that have a tendency to go off the deep end over pet peeve issues, like Pavlovian dogs that drool at the sound of a dinner bell!

If you don't think Kathy Griffin is funny, then don't go to her shows. But for heavens sake, don't beat up on people who do think she's funny.

his daughter into the public eye -- trying to get dates for them.

As to "dragging them into the public eye", they were simply there at a victory celebration and they were part of the general campaign that fell during the period that colleges were out for Christmas break. It is hard to think of any similar aged kids who would NOT have been pulled in in the same way.

Obama's kids were at the convention and his victory celebration, did Obama "drag them into the public eye"? They are, of course, among the most photographed kids their age. (In spite of the fact that Michelle and Obama have actually worked hard to give them privacy)

Where is the joke? What is your vaunted "whole picture" here. This was a picture of two young women taken on what obviously was a family vacation.

look at your last sentence. Being "stupid" is subjective, being a prostitute is not. Now consider if you were in the public eye for some positive reason and Glen Beck or Limbaugh called you a prostitute - even if they then immediately revoked it. I doubt you would like it. The other think it does is that it revives their dad's idiotic comment. He deserved some heat on that comment - and got it, but he is not the first person to make a stupid, embarrassing comment - any one given the amount of coverage he got would have. Here, though it takes on a new completely nasty tone.

I doubt you would like Chelsea Clinton, Biden's daughter, the older Obama girl in 8 years (the age difference between her and Brown's younger daugther) or any other kid. Ariana Brown is 19 years old (thanks google) and a college student - she is a public person only as the daughter of a Senator.

It was funny because of the details: Brown is a hottie who has posed for Playgirl, who is in a picture with two hot adult girls. This has NOTHING to do with dems vs reps. The same remark made of GWB with his daughters wouldn't be funny because it wouldn't be because George is not a hottie, has never been been in Playgirl, his daughters although attractive, are not as attractive or glammed up as the Brown girls.

Being called stupid would be to me much more insulting than being called a prostitute. If someone called me a prostitute my response would be hysterical laughter because it would be so ludicrous.

Of course I wouldn't want any young girls to be called prostitutes, but again, it was said by a comedian...I wouldn't be surprised if the Brown girls aren't having a good laugh over it. Cruel things WERE said about Chelsea and Malia by people who weren't comedians. But even though young they are/were smart and strong and know it goes with the territory. The Bush girls too weren't destroyed by remarks and jokes. And their dads didn't whine about it knowing it would call more attention to it. Brown should have ignorred it but he (like Palin) used it instead as a political opportunity.

As crude as some comedians can be (Kathy has never joked about children) I would definitely NOT want any comedians to be muzzled. If you don't find them funny or find them offensive, don't watch.

I also think there was absolutely nothing wrong with Brown saying "they are available". Any dad would have said that about his single daughters. The problem is the incredible nitpicking and hyper critical poplulation that can't allow people to be themselves and talk freely without intense judgement. What a dull world we are creating.

kathy just picked up the ball and ran with it.

and it was FUNNY!

I got my bellyful of her during CNN's New Year's Eve show where she visibly pissed off Anderson Cooper. I'm pretty open-minded about a lot of comedians, but she is just. not. funny.

If you have a beef with a politician, take it out on him or her, but leave the kids alone. I don't give a damn if an R or D comes after their name. Kids don't ask for the shit they have to put up with because Mom or Dad decides to be a public figure.

If you don't find her funny....don't watch her! Simple.

What happened to freedom of speech? It will be a very sad day when comedians have to monitor what they say because some thin skinned people are offended.

can't stand that pretend journo anyway. ;)

I just used the New Year's Eve show as the threshold when I could not stand her anymore. I even switch from Bravo when the commercials for her D-List show come on.

But I have a problem with people making insulting and slanderous remarks against those who are not putting themselves out there for public examination -- like children, especially those of public officials, no matter how old they are. This goes double if they are trying to live private lives as best they can while Mom or Dad is in the spotlight.

Sorry if my sense of humor differs from many here. I just know how I would feel and respond if someone purporting to be a comedian called my children prostitutes for the sake of a laugh. YMMV.

went on Americna Idol, the most popular TV show in the country. A show that is almost entirely based on "public examination."

don't get pissed then

what makes them great is because they have different personalities. KAthy is more open funny and Anderson more serious.

they are the reason CNN is one of the best to watch during new years eve now.

renounces the pigboy for his disgusting comments about Chelsea.

Worse than that was John McCann's joke about Chelsea, who WAS a child at the time and McCann was not a comedian.

Actually, I think apologies are a joke. They aren't sincere anyway and are used just to get off the hook. I bet that when Glen Beck planned his Malia bashing he had the apology written into the next days script. If someone says something that is cruel or wrong in your opinion, you should simply not give them any support or watch them, whatever the case may be.

So you have to respect Kathy. She won't apologies. After all, she trashed Jesus and no apologizes there.

P.S. When David Letterman made his remark he was referring to Bristol, but it was understandably misunderstood because Willow was in the clip. I believe his apology was sincere and appropriate.

It would just give the comments more visibility and I assume you are referring to comments more than a decade ago in the case of Chelsea.

so why are R families off-limits? Particularly when they are active campaigners.

She has no reason at all to leave any living human alone. What she said was funny. It got laughs. That is the whole of her job, that is what she is paid to do.
On the subject of kids in the public eye, those kids are only in the spotlight because their parents put them there to help the parent's agenda. When a parent uses a child as a device, as a selling point, that parent has made their child into a political creature, that is the parent's choice. If that photo had remained in pocket, no joke would have been made. But of course, Brown would not have been able to score 'family values' points either. Some of us are sick of that routine. Very sick indeed.
No parent in the public eye is compelled to make their children into publicity fodder, and when they do that is a choice they have made. A choice the parents made. Many very famous people have kids you do not ever see, or know about. David Bowie had a son all through his major rock stardom, no photo ever, and his name 'Zowie' was a fake. David Bowie did not use his child as a calling card, as part of his act. Many people do the exact same thing. Others use their children as objects of politics or of entertainment. Once you declare you kids to be instruments to be played in your band, they are now a part of your public life.
Kathy did not put his kids in the position to be mocked, he did. And he did so to score 'family values points'. He felt the use of that photo would make him more popular and likable. He acted with intention. Kathy taught him a lesson. He should heed that lesson, and be a better father.
What do his kids have to do with his job description? Nothing. What do jokes about public figures have to do with Kathy's job description? Everything.
Keep your kids private, or do not whine about it when they are treated as people in the public eye. They are not protected extensions of yourself which can be used to score points that can not be countered.
The blame goes to the father who put them out there. As the daughters will know, if not now, then later. I've seen it and seen it.

What exactly did she do wrong? She's a comedian and she makes jokes, this is what is expected from her.

somehow I can forgive her this, I usually would defend the kids in matters like this.

but this is what she's about, she says shocking things all the time.

maybe I'll think aobut it a bit more, tho.

Funny how that works.

great work.

:rofl:

Kathy Griffin goes over the top all the time, and if one isn't used to her brand of "comedy" she can be offensive.

I happen to like her, but sometimes she goes too far for me.

In this case, Brown's comment about his daughters was stupid and maybe Griffin went a little too far.

He did standup at places like the Bottom Line in Greenwich Village in the 1970s.

for politicians on morning radio. Griffen has positioned herself as Ms Potty Mouth 2010.

The lure was very likely that he let them speak for long periods of time directly to the listeners and he really did not ask hard questions. He also was on his good behavior during their appearance - but the rest of the time he was kind of a shock jock. Humor - some embarrassing was still part of his show.

This also was NOT what his 1970s era shows here - he was a comedian. He did not have any politicians when he appeared in Manhattan.

He did his natty haired ho bit while he was Mr. Morning Talk Show Political Venue of Choice. That was my point. Kathy is not posing as a respectable media person, she is, right now, as I stated, working the Ms Potty Mouth 2010 angle. There is no valid equivalence.

So what is the big fucking deal? Her whole shtick is outrage. That is what she does.

I am pointing out that this is what she does and it is no big deal.

And her crude jokes are irrelevant to anything worth complaining about.

i mean, c'mon this is her shtick

Some people enjoy it.

(Ayla is a CBC "Early Show" contributor and Arianna is modeling through Maggie, Inc. in Boston, both gigs perks from daddy's political office.)

That renders them fair game to comedians.