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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:59 AM
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Arne Duncan wants money to stave off teacher layoffs...wants a veto if it's HIS money.
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 12:16 PM by madfloridian
Arne Duncan has been arguing for money to help prevent the hundreds of thousands of teacher layoffs next year. Problem is he doesn't want anyone touching his discretionary money which is thought to be about 4.3 billion. He wants it to come from somewhere else so his funds can be saved to "reform" schools.

As a matter of fact he said in a CBS Face the Nation interview that he had 10 billion in discretionary funds.

SCHIEFFER: And, obviously, these are decisions that have to be made by local school boards and by the states. But the way you encourage that, I take it, is by telling them, if they’re willing to do these things, then the federal government is willing to compensate.

DUNCAN: Right. We have unprecedented discretionary resources. Again, states can compete for them. And you talked about the $4.35 billion race to the top. We actually have, collectively, more than $10 billion in discretionary resources.


We’ve never had so much money to invest. And I talk so much about the challenges. But I’ll tell you why I’m so hopeful and so optimistic. We’ve never had more great teachers, more great classrooms, more great schools, more great school districts in the history of our nation. There’s been this flourishing of innovation and entrepreneurial educators.


In fact no DOE has ever had that much walking around money, never.

There was a conference call with Arne Duncan and Melody Barnes. They made it very clear that a bill like that of David Obey would warrant a veto.

Duncan, Barnes Reiterate: Veto Education Jobs Funding If Race to the Top Cut

I just got off one of the stranger conference calls of my conference call career. Education Secretary Arne Duncan and White House Domestic Policy Advisor Melody Barnes joined others on a call to argue for an immediate education jobs fund to save the careers of teachers facing layoffs. They laid out all the reasons why teachers must stay in the classroom and why we risk failing our students without this funding. They were very passionate about this. They rejected the notion that the White House has been unclear or aloof on the issue, noting in painstaking detail all the times that the President on down have advocated to save teacher jobs.

And then, Barnes said, “We don’t have to make a choice between reform and making sure teachers are able to stay in the classroom,” and that if the education jobs fund got paid for with a sliver of stimulus money dedicated to the Race to the Top program, they would recommend a veto.

Then I got whiplash.

There are actually three stimulus programs that would get a cut in funding under the bill passed in the House as part of the war supplemental: Race to the Top, the Teacher Incentive Fund (which is about performance pay and encouraging teachers to work in hard-to-staff, low-income areas) and the Charter Schools Fund. Barnes and Duncan want to find other means of offsetting the jobs fund. The Education Secretary said that he would “work with Congress” on that. “I’m happy to have skin in the game,” Duncan said. But he gave no specifics of potential offsets, likely to come from the Education Department.

It’s important to recognize what the Race to the Top program is. It’s a pot of money. The Education Department dangles it in front of the states to get them to change their education policies to what they prefer. And then it slowly dribbles it out. $4.3 billion dollars was appropriated in the stimulus for RTTT. Only $600 million has gone out, to two states (Tennessee and Delaware), 18 months later. So Arne Duncan has already cost teacher jobs by holding back $3.7 billion for a year and a half to try and entice more desperate states to change their policies.


David Obey learned the hard way that you do not touch Arne's money. He did get a bill through the House to use part of that money to help save teachers' jobs...but Obama threatened to veto it.

Obey tries to cut RTTT funds to save teacher jobs...Obama threatens veto if RTTT cut.

“Reformers” Upset as Obey Tries to Save “Edujobs”

Who with one degree of common sense would push for building more charter schools or Race to the Trough funding for innovation, while at the same time cutting hundreds of thousands of teachers from the schools of this country and jamming more and more students into a classroom? Congressman David Obey (D-WI) seeing the crisis that some have referred to as a teacherpocalypse has tried to cobble together the funds to save teacher jobs. His bill would would cut $500 million from the Race to the Top, $200 million from the teacher incentive fund (TIF), and $100 million from the charter school program. It would also secure $10 billion to save 140,000 teacher jobs in this coming school year.

Congressman Obey explained his action this way, “When a ship is sinking, you don’t worry about redesigning a room, you worry about keeping it afloat.”


However as Education Week pointed out Obey's bill would likely bring a veto from the president.

President Barack Obama is urging Congress not to cut his signature education reform initiative.

"The President believes that we need to keep teachers in the classroom, and we have worked with Congress to find a way to pay for it. But the President also feels very strongly that we should not cut funding for Race to the Top, one of the most sweeping reform initiatives in a generation," Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the White House, said in an e-mail.

(UPDATE (6 p.m.): The administration turned that up a notch tonight, warning Congress in a statement: "If the final bill presented to the President includes cuts to education reforms, the President's senior advisors would recommend a veto.")


Another warning came from the National Alliance of Charter Schools.

"In this difficult economy, we understand and support Chairman Obey's efforts to save educators' jobs. However, we strongly oppose the reductions in education funding he proposes. It is short-sighted to propose saving jobs by cutting other jobs in the same sector. Currently, 420,000 children are hoping for the chance to attend a charter school, and the federal Charter Schools Programs can help make that dream a reality. These funds provide invaluable resources to help charter schools start up, hire staff and afford children new educational opportunities. Chairman Obey's $100 million cut, which is 40 percent of the program's yearly funding, would mean 200 fewer new charter schools, and as many as 6,000 charter school professionals in jeopardy of losing their jobs or never having a chance to work for a charter school.

...""The National Alliance strongly opposes these cuts and looks forward to working with Congress to eliminate them."


The "reforms" will continue no matter what. The money will most likely stay in Arne's coffers. The staggering war costs that get little resistance compared to the opposition to really funding education..showing our priorities now as a country.




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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:57 PM
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7. Not sure about your "usual suspects...infallible administration" premise but...
there has been support for Education reform expressed on DU.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:59 PM
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8. what education reform?
All I've seen being discussed and defended by the "usual suspects" are these privatization schemes.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:06 PM
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11. Schemes?
Oh noes! Not schemes!



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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:37 PM
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18. I prefer the term "plunder". As in Arnie Duncan and Obama are plundering public schools to enrich
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 01:38 PM by w4rma
wealthy contributors. This "Race to the Top" money is to con states into being plundered of their assets.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:45 PM
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19. Plunder is an excellent term. n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 05:28 PM
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25. That's exactly what it is.
Pluder.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:07 PM
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12. The privatization plans ARE the reform.
:hi:
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:18 PM
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13. yes i know
I think schemes are a better word for them though
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:21 PM
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16. You might be right.
:)
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:09 PM
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3. Well, we can't curtail funds flowing into corporate charters, now can we?
Think of those poor children just WAITING for a chance at attending a charter!

Meanwhile, the schools they can attend are starved of cash and personnel, further ensuring they cannot make AYP and will be converted to . . . you guessed it! . . . a CHARTER!
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:11 PM
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5. Obama plays hardball with Obey
no 3-D chess when it comes to fighting liberals. :thumbsup:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:01 PM
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9. It is amazing how clear and unambiguous the WH CAN be sometimes isn't it?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:57 PM
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30. I was just thinking that. No excuses about not being able 'to get
votes' or blaming 'obstructionist Republicans' when a real progressive makes a proposal to save teacher's jobs.

David Obey learned the hard way that you do not touch Arne's money. He did get a bill through the House to use part of that money to help save teachers' jobs...but Obama threatened to veto it.


Wow, no threat of a veto if there was no PO in a Health Care bill. But saving teachers and students, he remembers his veto power.

This administration proves more and more that they are no friends of the nations school teachers.

Good for Obey, I read that he will not be running again, so he has nothing they can threaten him with, or twist his arm for.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 04:18 PM
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32. Obey is My Hero
And despite how things turn out, I appreciate his efforts.:)
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joe black Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:19 AM
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43. Yep
I think Obey is pretty disgusted with the whole thing. Prolly a good reason to retire and say fuck it, I wouldn't blame him.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 08:17 PM
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48. He allowed Shirley Sherrod to fall without hearing her side.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:51 PM
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6. K&R
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:06 PM
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10. So?
Don't you think as much money as possible should go into improving schools? You clearly don't agree with his methods of improvement but that doesn't mean the funds should be pilfered to help keep teachers on the job. They are separate issues and teachers salaries should not depend on funds being diverted from another departments efforts. Those funds should be provided without question from the feds it should be a no brainier regardless of how much discretionary money any other effort has.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:18 PM
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14. Is anyone still trying to pretend that teaching to the standard test and PRIVATIZING our schools
benefits anyone other than the TESTING COMPANIES and the parasitic capitalists?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:19 PM
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15. lots of people apparently
this issue needs to be shouted about a lot louder
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puzzlingpond Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:09 PM
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22. Lots are. just look at the responses of any thread on education. Pri-
vatization is the honey of the RW and many Democrats also.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:27 PM
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20. RTTT is about privatization and union-busting, not improvement. nt
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 05:29 PM
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26. rttt is about teacher assessments, and targeting needs of
students. charter schools are a red herring, imho. yes, the plan removes the artificial ceilings on charters, as well as alternative cert.
but the guts of the plan is technology and instruments that evaluate teachers impact on students, not just student achievement, and not just schools overall performance. that is what has raised a lot of hackles.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 06:53 PM
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45. Wrong, as usual.
Edited on Tue Jul-20-10 06:54 PM by Catshrink
Charters are not a red herring, they are siphoning off money from public education. Charters can cherry pick their students, leaving special education and other at risk kids for the public schools.

The guts of the plan is privatization.

Do you know where the shift key is?

I don't understand what you mean by "teachers (sic) impact on students, not just student achievement and not just schools (sic) overall performance." It seems to me you are confused. NCLB and its evil offspring, RttT are all about testing, testing, testing. Schools are being targeted and closed with questionable rationale for doing so. These actions are based on student performance on one freaking test. This is deemed "student achievement" by Arne.

The instruments you praise are not available for every subject. Someone is going to make big bucks developing these tests and that's the point. Pearson/NCS is cleaning up, as are other companies.

There are no provisions for special education students, for schools in low SES areas, for number of students in classes.

But I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 03:57 PM
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31. Are you totally out of the loop?
Are you aware of the kind of education that the duncan schemes will reward? More pencil and paper, fill in the circle, narrow the curriculum, avoid thinking tests. More turnover of public schools to private corporations. They don't actually know what they want done; they just want to trust the corporations to do it.

Read up on this before you wave that flag celebrating all the money going to improving schools.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:41 PM
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33. People might agree with his methods if they were an improvement.
What they are is a continuation of Bush's disastrous 'educational' system which was designed by and for Big Business with little if any input from educators. It is an anti-Public School system meant to divert public funds into private hands. It has been very successful at doing that, see the profits made by Bush's friends in the Educational Publishing business eg. Not so good at education children.

Arne Duncan is taking the Bush system to new heights of profit-making for private business. And again there is no sign that this test based program has, will or can improve the nation's educational system. A lot of people have and will get richer though.

What's astonishing is how Democrats could see how bad NCLB was when Bush was president, but many of those same people appear to have put on blinders now that he's no longer in charge of it. No wonder Democrats can never get their ideas passed into law. Too many self-professed dems are all too willing to let their own party slide and sign on to rightwing ideas so long as they are labeled 'D'.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:34 PM
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17. the DOE should survey teachers about reform like Obama surveyed military about gays :-) nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 02:30 PM
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21. There was a survey by Gates...This is the first I read about it.
I have not seen it...would like to see the whole thing.

"Despite the opportunity to increase their income, teachers nationwide are skeptical of Gates' agenda. In a national survey of 40,000 teachers co-sponsored by the Gates Foundation and released in March, 36 percent said that tying pay to performance is not at all important in retaining good teachers, while only 8 percent said it's essential. And 30 percent said it would have no effect on student achievement—triple the proportion that said it would have a very strong impact.

"The Gates Foundation was very surprised," says Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers. "They asked the question in a way they thought they'd get a positive result, and they got a very negative result." On the contrary, says Gates spokesman Christopher Williams, the foundation was heartened that a significant portion of teachers do believe in merit pay."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38282806/ns/business-bloomberg_businessweek/

8% is significant. I really would like to see it.
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puzzlingpond Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:11 PM
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23. Thank you. You do good work on education. Rec.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:40 PM
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28. Thank you.
I appreciate the words. We are accepting how teachers are being treated all too easily. It's stand up now or it will be too late.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 05:21 PM
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24. Thank you for all the work and research you do on this subject...keeping the rest of us up to date
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 05:21 PM by BrklynLiberal
on all the crap that is going on in DC and around the country.

:thumbsup: :hi: :hug:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:27 PM
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27. entrepreneurial educators
Argh!!! The business model lexicon in a nutshell...meanwhile training the poor kids to push buttons whether on cash registers or on war machines, that's all they need to know...:sarcasm:

"Currently, 420,000 children are hoping for the chance to attend a charter school, and the federal Charter Schools Programs can help make that dream a reality" ARgh, argh, argh,

WE need a decent public school system that teaches kids to understand how the corporate funded government screws them...
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:51 PM
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34. you are right but
"WE need a decent public school system that teaches kids to understand how the corporate funded government screws them..."
that's exactly what they're trying to do away with.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:39 PM
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39. Not sure if we've gotten there yet...
and they sure as heck are trying to keep us from succeeding, but some of us keep working on it despite the obstacles...(helps if you teach art...still haven't figured out how to limit us...)
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:00 PM
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36. Work for social and economic justice.
Then you'll have decent public schools everywhere and not just where property values and incomes are highest.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:12 PM
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37. Ad nauseam
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 09:20 PM by sulphurdunn
There exist not one scintilla of peer reviewed, quantifiable research data to suggest that charter schools achieve superior educational outcomes relative to regular public schools demographically. Every time I hear the Mad Hatter's tea party quests wax eloquent to the contrary I feel like I've gone down the rabbit hole again. Jesus! What kind of Wonderland lunacy do we live in? :tinfoilhat:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:41 PM
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40. Absolutely...
Public education should be of the same quality everywhere...and private schools maybe done away with all together!
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Althaia Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:47 AM
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29. seeing how destructive the DOE is to effective education, I'm tempted to agree with the Tea Party's
..desire to get rid of the DOE.

It might be an improvement.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:04 PM
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35. Laid-off teachers are pissed off teachers
And they are fairly well-informed citizens whose votes carry clout.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:35 PM
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38. It is so painfully obvious what they're doing. I won't hold my
breath waiting for the MSM to do even one story on Duncan's legacy in Chicago that would support why the fuck he was given the
job in the first place.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Duncan and Gates do not appear to have support for their policies among middle class and above communities.
If this is true, they must unite to fight back.

Fight the Smears of Teachers website, fact check Duncan and Gates, something to fight back hard!
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 12:12 PM
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44. From GritTv, Diane Ravitch: Race to the Top or Skim off the Top?
Edited on Tue Jul-20-10 12:18 PM by Jefferson23
by admin was published on July 20th, 2010

"We're lying to our kids," says professor and former charter school advocate and supporter of No Child Left Behind Diane Ravitch. High-stakes testing and punishing teachers for low-scoring kids is failing, according to her research; moreover, charter schools are only successful, when they are, because they can select the best students from the failing districts in which they are located.

In a new piece at The Nation, and in her new book, The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education, Ravitch lays out the case against the policies she once supported. She joins Laura in studio to discuss the problems with education--and how Obama and Arne Duncan might be making things worse, not better.

http://www.grittv.org/2010/07/20/ravitch-race-top-schools-charter/

On edit to add: Somebody Explain This to Me

June 16, 2010 — George Wood
For the past eighteen years I have worked as a high school/middle school principal along side a dedicated staff and a committed community to improving a school. In that time we have increased graduation and college going rates, engaged our students in more internships and college courses, created an advisory system that keeps tabs on all of our students, and developed the highest graduation standards in the state (including a Senior Project and Graduation Portfolio).

But reading the popular press, and listening to the chatter from Washington, I have just found out that we are not part of the movement to ‘reform’ schools.

You see we did not do all the stuff that the new ‘reformers’ think is vital to improve our schools. We did not fire the staff, eliminate tenure, or go to pay based on test scores. We did not become a charter school. We did not take away control from a locally elected school board and give it to a mayor. We did not bring in a bunch of two-year short-term teachers.

Nope, we did not do any of these things. Because we knew they would not work.

There is no evidence that firing staffs and using the turn around strategies that failed when Secretary Duncan was in charge of Chicago’s schools is suddenly going to work (here’s the evaluation from Duncan’s supervisors).

http://www.forumforeducation.org/blog/somebody-explain-me-0


I'm still trying to find a good reason why Duncan was hired.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 06:57 PM
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46. Arne was hired because he plays basketball with Obama.
That is his sole qualification for the job. His record in Chicago was disappointint at best.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 07:54 PM
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47. I haven't been able to find reasoning that would support Duncan's
proposals...none.

His record in Chicago would have been a solid reason not to hire him.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 08:21 PM
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49. Arne Duncan is to Obama as Alberto Gonzalez is to Bush.
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