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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:47 AM
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Poll question: Should Julian Assange of WikiLeaks Release Details of Weapons Locations and/or Nuclear Launch Codes?
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 07:35 AM by Turborama
In an interview with http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/secret+files+wikileaks+exposes+aposunseen+afghan+warapos/3723387">Britain's Channel 4 News, Julian Assange answered in the affirmative to a question about whether or not he would release details of weapons locations. He also said he would release the launch codes of nuclear weapons, under the right circumstances.

So what are the limits of Wikileaks? This is enormous, but more could come in.
We go through the harm minimisation process.

CIA reports?
Yes. As long as we go through the harm minimisation process.

Locations of weapons?
Absolutely.

Nuclear launch codes?
Well, we would have to go through a harm minimisation process.

Well, that would be quite a big harm.
Well, after they've been changed - the launch codes - then we could publish it. That would reveal that the process of securing these things are a big problem and as we all should know nuclear war, while quite distant, is still technically possible.



Watch the interview here: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid62612474001?bctid=248232315001

For full context, http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/afghan+leak+wikileaks+julian+assange+tells+all/3723392">here's the transcript of the entire interview.


Do you agree with Julian?

(edited to add choices 4 & 5)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:54 AM
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1. what if it were the russian codes or china's codes?
are we feeling exposed because we're talking about the west?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:09 AM
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3. Good question. I added choice 4 to try and cover that. n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:01 AM
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2. If he had the launch codes they'd already be obsolete
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 07:09 AM by Recursion
And the codes aren't "codes" like passwords; they're physical chips on a computer in a briefcase that's handcuffed to a military officer.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:10 AM
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4. This is good to know!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:22 AM
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5. Based on his release - the only thing he could announce is he discovered we had nuclear weapons
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 07:23 AM by stray cat
so far the release seems like common knowledge we all knew allready
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 07:32 AM
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6. To clarify, WikiLeaks gets information of all kinds "leaked" to it all the time
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 07:33 AM by Turborama
The interviewer was throwing some "what ifs" at him to see what his limits are. Judging by the way the question was asked, by "weapons" they meant any weapons in any location.

http://wikileaks.org/

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:10 AM
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7. He never gave an unconditional yes. After "...the harm minimisation process."
For example, he seems to be saying he might publish OLD launch codes that had already been changed.

It would be of educational value to the public if the launch codes were something stupid like 00000000 or 8675309 or "password."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/867-5309/Jenny


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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:17 PM
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10. Obama on hold with DoD: "Ooh, I love this song, 867-53..."
"Hey, why are all these lights flashing?" :P
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 09:19 AM
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8. you should add an "I don't know" option
I would answer I don't know, because I don't know what the risk is. It sounds really bad, of course, but is it? It sounds like he would release the codes and the weapon locations and then some bad person would set off a nuclear war, but is that the way it is? Would there really be such a risk?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:41 AM
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9. I voted yes. It would be a great way to compel disarmament.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:33 PM
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11. Not so different, but Assange released the Australian Great Firewall list a while back.
Essentially a list of every kiddy porn site on the Internet. The kiddy porn people loved it, and the Australian government was furious, but Assange made a great point: In a free society, if your government is going to censor what you see, shouldn't you at least have the right to know what it is they're censoring? If the government is going to make a list of things you aren't allowed to view, shouldn't free citizens at least get to see the list?

As it turned out, the Australian government had added a number of minority political information sites and general news sites (including, ironically, Wikileaks) to their ban list. It was quite embarassing for them.

Even though the release led to some harm (it was basically a to-do list for pedophiles), it led to an even greater good in that it exposed the governments censorship of political and informational speech that it disagreed with.

I weigh every release against that standard. What is the potenial harm in releasing those codes? What is the benefit? Does the benefit outweigh the harm?

As to the original question...what is the benefit of releasing that information?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 06:41 PM
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12. Let's see who we are going to nuke if an American President goes berserk
and tries to bring Armageddon.
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