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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:11 PM
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PPP: Boxer expands lead

Boxer expands lead

Independent voters have turned against Carly Fiorina over the last two months and the result is Barbara Boxer expanding her lead to 49-40 in the California Senate race after holding just a 45-42 advantage in a PPP poll two months ago.

Fiorina wasn't particularly well liked before the primary when 22% of voters said they had a favorable opinion of her and 30% said they viewed her unfavorably. Now they like her even less. Just 28% of Californians have a positive opinion of her, while 40% see her negatively. That shift has been particularly sharp with independent voters. Her favorability with them has risen from 15% to 20% over the last couple months, but her unfavorability has gone up much more rapidly from 23% to 40%.

As independents have grown to hold a more unfavorable opinion of Fiorina their loyalties in the race have shifted toward Boxer. The incumbent has a 48-38 lead with them now, flipping the 10 point deficit she faced to Fiorina at 42-32 back in May. Beyond that both candidates have pretty solid holds on their party's support- Boxer is up 77-13 with Democrats and Fiorina is up 77-13 with Republicans. To win in a heavily Democratic state like California Fiorina would need to get more crossover support from Democrats than Boxer did from Republicans and also win with independents. Right now neither of those things are happening.

Boxer's probably not completely out of the woods- her numbers still leave something to be desired with more voters disapproving (46%) of her than approve (44%). Even though they're planning to vote for her independents still don't actually like her, with 48% disapproving and only 40% approving. But it appears as though the more independents get to know Fiorina the more of them consider Boxer to be the lesser of two evils.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:13 PM
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1. I'd be a lot more pissed at Fiorina beating Boxer
than if Whitman winds up beating Jerry Brown.

Not to say that I'm a Whitman fan, but I really like Barbara Boxer.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:18 PM
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4. Either thing is unacceptable.
I'd give Whitman a 30% chance, and Fiorina a less than 10% chance. Boxer will win comfortably...
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:28 PM
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5. Of course.
How could I be so silly?

Thank you for putting me in check.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:09 PM
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19. I didn't mean that antagonistically.
I was just honestly pondering the thought of that lady Whitman on TV for years and it turned my stomach.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:39 PM
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26. Agreed that Boxer will probably win
I think most of what we're hearing is that "democrats will loose in the midterms" meme.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:37 PM
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9. A Whitman Victory Says More About Jerry Brown
Than Whitman who is a terrible campaigner.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:14 PM
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2. YAY BOXER, one Senator we can nearly all agree on worthy of her office.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:17 PM
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3. Another Mama Grizzly in trouble
What will the media say now?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:30 PM
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6. Please California - don't "pull a California" this year!
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jamalhernandez Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:34 PM
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7. Boxer is improving, Reid is improving, Dems. in the generic ballot are improving
The party is definitely in a good streak.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:37 PM
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8. Pretty much as I expected
The more people learn about Fiorina, the more people don't like her.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:50 PM
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11. Agree.
I did not worry much about Barb.

--imm
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:42 PM
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10. I'm not so worried about Boxer, but I am worried about Brown.
Why, oh why, did we have to run Brown again? He's a tired old politician with no new ideas (or even old ideas) and he wasn't much of a governor the first time around. If Meg wins, Lord help us.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:59 PM
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12. Pretty depressing how shallow our bench is.
Tough to imagine that in a state this vibrant that the best we could do is someone who was already governor 30 years ago.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:09 PM
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14. I think Jerry Brown is good ...I don't care how long he has been
around...
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:10 PM
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17. I would have liked to see John Garamendi run rather than Brown.
I admit I don't know a whole lot about him, but I think he did a good job when he was the Insurance Commissioner. And he's easy on the eyes. LOL
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:22 PM
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18. He could have run. We didn't even have a primary. nt
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:10 PM
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20. The bench is really deep I think...
Villaraigosa, any number of good state senators, assembly members, and US house members could have run, but they did not. I don't think Brown is too bad... He's an acceptable Democratic candidate.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:17 PM
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21. I feel like he's fine. Far from a hold your nose and vote situation.
But I'm just really not that excited about him. Where is the new vision that is going to propel the state forward?
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:22 PM
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22. I dreaded him a year ago...
I thought it was a terrible idea, taking someone who lost before and was from a dark period for the Democratic Party in California, when we have so many new people, but I think he'll win and may just be a good administrator if he doesn't try to decimate pensions or govern as an opportunist.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:29 PM
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23. Now, you really are kidding about Villaraigosa, right?
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:33 PM
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24. I was a big fan of Villariagosa, but he blew it.
The schools issue was handled badly, the affair with the newscaster was handled badly, and now there is some other issue he is handling badly...can't remember what it is this time. I used to think he'd be the next gov, but he's flamed out worse than Spitzer (who at least is still showing he's VERY smart about things).

I've really admired the job Brown is doing as Atty General. I wish he would stay in that position. But if he becomes gov, I"m sure he'll do fine.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:08 PM
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13. Great news although not unexpected.
Fiorina has been deemed one of 20 worst CEOs of all time.

K&R
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:13 PM
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15. Good news. Thanks for posting this...
...Prosense.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 03:49 PM
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16. It will be so nice to see Cruella de Fiorina go down in flames
So nice.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:38 PM
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25. Fiorina has no redeeming qualities whatsoever
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 10:38 PM by fujiyama
She has no accomplishments to speak of. And she's widely considered to be one of the worst CEOs of a major corporation in the last 25 years (and God there have been some God awful ones out there). I see no group to whom she would appeal to.


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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:42 PM
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27. Thanks for some really good news nt
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 12:43 AM
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28. If conservatives area gainst Boxer then she's doing her job right
Edited on Wed Jul-28-10 12:43 AM by lunatica
That's all I have to add.
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