The President (thru his mouthpiece) just told me to f*** off.

Okay, I'll f*** off then.

I contributed to his Senate run.
I contributed to his Presidential run.
I donated to the DNC for the last 8 years.
I volunteered with the local Democratic Party to get the vote out for Obama in 2008.

Next time some one around here ask me if I'm going to vote for President Obama in 2012 I'll just remind them that he says I'm a drug addled "professional" liberal and he couldn't care less for my vote. Guess what? He lost it.

I will, of course, continue to vote for, volunteer for and donate to Democratic candidates who care about my vote, LISTEN TO ME and support and fight for the policies I think are best for the country.

because I am not a part of his base anyway. Good luck with that line of attack, I guess. I am sure it will prove to be successful in 2012.

Gibbs was talking to the actual "liberals" who think Obama=Bush.

as well as the rest of the country..feel demonized?

Chances are he was talking to you though.

The same way Michael Moore was talking about you when he coined the term "professional liberal".

but since i dont have health insurance and my mortgage is late, perhaps you could suggest the source of such funds..

But you know what? I'm not going to blame anyone except the people that caused the foreclosure problem; BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS. I'm certainly not going to blame Obama and the Democrats who are trying to help us.

good luck..

I've posted it about a dozen times now.

Bank Regulation Brings Mortgage Aid For The Unemployed
http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:BT-CO-20100722-708905.html

Why don't people who advance this statement just respond to and defend the President when specific criticisms are put forward. This is just name calling.

"I hear these people saying he's like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested. I mean, it's crazy."

In another thread, no matter what I posted, this clown replied, "So do you think Obama is the same as Bush"? I kept ignoring the idiot, and I'd reply somewhere else, and he'd jump back in with the same sit. And the more I ignored him the angrier he got, and just kept asking the same goddamned question.

Trained seals. Talking parrots. Whatever.

Just to piss you off. When you're ready to talk with the grown-ups, maybe we can get beyond ridiculous straw men and misdirection. Until then, we're all just fucking retards and drug addled professional leftists who aren't a significant enough voting bloc to be concerned about one way or the other. You don't need to worry about us because we're just fringe malcontents.

And I bet that's true of most of the DU "critics" of the President.

...but you're correct about me-- I voted Green in 2008 and I'm proud of it. I was not fooled then any more than I am now.

If you want to continue to bash the President for every and any move he makes take that shit elsewhere.

...at best

I have never said that Obama=Bush and people that do say that horseshit I dont take seriously. What I was offended by was that Gibbs called me out personally. He referred to those people that want Canadian healthcare. Yeah I am one of those people, like Michael Moore said tonight, he is one of those people to.

He called me out personally, so fuck him.

We are drug addled, professional liberals with fuckin' retarded ideas. (Just to give Obama's buddy, Rahm, his due.)

This must be more 3D chess because I sure can't figure out how they think they'll win if they completely shun the left. They don't really think they'll be any more successful picking up Republican voters than they have been getting them to cooperate in Congress, do they?

Wow, just because Gibbs targeted a VERY SMALL group of whiners?

the disappointment with this administration is growing among anyone to the left of the DLC. I hear more of it from party regulars all the time - as well as from friends & relatives who aren't especially into politics but who voted for him.

And it is the insurance sell out thatleft a lot of people disgusted.

It's obvious that the upset "liberal" base chatter is a rovian ploy. A new poll just came out that proves
that "a lot of people" aren't so "disgusted".

I'll continue to support my president and work hard for the dems. Those few loud-mouths who opt
to constantly complain are just spokes in the wheel.

You people are unbelievably boring and gullible.

You're your own fan club.

Do yourself a favor and go check the Greatest Page right now. Virtually all the posts are posts destroying Gibbs and countless DUers like myself who think that what Gibbs said was idiotic and if they think they are going to get reelected with that kind of attitude towards their own base, they are stupider than I first thought.

The "few loud-mouths" on DU are the BOG, maybe 20 or so people who are hell bent on helping our President fail by not holding him accountable.

Obama told the Net-Roots Nation last week that he wanted them to hold him accountable. So I guess you arent taking the Presidents advice.

I mean, we're irrelevant, right? :shrug:

the "concerned" fake liberals= RW conspirators.

:eyes:

Right? :shrug:

then it will be all our fault. They appear to be setting up for that song now.

sorry, couldn't resist.

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...have no problem constantly talking shit about the administration and saying whatever nasty thing you feel like saying about Barack Obama. But when someone actually says something back to you, you apparently can't handle it.

Remember, we liberals have a voice too and the last time I heard that it was uncool to criticize the government is present day China and before that the former Soviet Union. Have we become a totalitarian type government too? If we have I'm surprised you are okay with it.

Criticize whoever you want, all you want. But if that criticism is returned back to you, be an adult about it. Gibbs has every right to defend the administrations record against those that constantly say it isn't good enough.

blamed the liberals of being the cause of his problems. I think they forget who got Obama elected. It was every single one of us who would have preferred Dennis Kucinich but voted for Obama anyway. It was every single independent who didn't want to vote for McCain. It wasn't just the corporate Democrats who put him in office. If it had only been them, then McCain would be President today.

Are you one of those on the left that will "NEVER" be happy with anything the president does? Because that's who I thought he was talking about. I don't think he meant that "anyone" who disagrees with the president, or who wanted "more" out of certain bills that got passed was in that group. I don't thin anyone is completely happy with everything that has been done. What I think he was saying is that some are never happy with what comes about, they "ALWAYS" want MORE! They don't realize that we were lucky to get what we got because not only were republicans voting NO on all the things that have been passed, but some democrats were also voting NO. Right now we have a start on a lot of things, and as someone else said progressives will keep on trying to change things like health care till we do get a single payer system, and they will continue to try and add to bills like the financial reform bill to make it even better. That's what being a progressive is all about, moving on to make things better.

Now I know that a lot of the talk here today is coming from our right wing trolls who want to divide the party, hell that's the goal for being here. I also know that the majority of democrats want "better" bills that what we got, but we did get something that we can build on, and if we got nothing at all, where would we be? Now I read that president Obama has done more than any other president in his first 18 months in the last 50 years. He hasn't gotten everything done he wanted to, but like I said before, he is fighting not only the republicans, but members in his own party. It's not easy to get something passed if there isn't enough votes. Republicans use every tactic in the book to get their members of congress to vote the way their leadership wants them to, but democrats don't do so well when it comes to getting the votes from their own party, let along trying to get some republicans to cross over!

Now you can vote for who you want come 2012, that's your choice, but when we end up with say president Palin running this country, then what? President Obama has a lot of time left in his first term, he can get more done if we keep enough democrats in congress to help him pass bills, and if we can get rid of the DINO's who vote with the republicans, maybe we can get some better bills, and maybe we can add to some of the bills that already have been passed. Now of course if republicans take over congress next year, nothing at all will be done, not one damned thing will get passed, and I don't know about you, but that's not what I want.

I think we should all think about things, and look at all Obama has done since he has been in office and remember that if McCain and Palin where in the WH right now we this country would be in the biggest depression in history right now!

"I also know that the majority of democrats want "better" bills that what we got, but we did get something that we can build on"

Actually, some of the people that Gibbs is complaining about are making the case that they ARE NOT something to build upon, but something that obstructs the ultimate goal.

This would be true of moving, not closing, Gitmo to Illinois and making it a permanent facility for indefinite extrajudicial detentions. It would be a mandate, that is most definitely not something to build on, nor cadillac taxes. It would be escalataing the war in Afghanistan and killling more innnocent Afghans.

If you're going to criticize the left, you could at least address their points.

"He hasn't gotten everything done he wanted to"

Right, he didn't get Specter. Has he done for Sestak what he did for Specter yet? Fund raiser, presidential visits?
He did get Lincoln though, well so far. He did get the mandate he asked for, and he chose the cadillac tax over the increase on the top 2% of wage earners though. And he did get to escalate the war in Afghanistan. They even had a vote on that and he won. So what is it that he's not getting again?

It might really help if the critics of the left would actually argue against the points of the left, instead of making up their own, as Gibbs did recently.

I am sure having McCain and Palin in the WH would be much better! :sarcasm:

So how would you make the changes you want if you have no help from congress to pass bills? Something "IS" better than nothing, and if you think NOTHING at all is better, well I really don't know what to tell you!

I out line a post in which I highlight the presidents choices, and I get some snarky strawman about Palin and McCain.

Here's an idea, stick to his campaign promises. No mandates and no cadillac taxes. Both were feasible, and he CHOSE both.

He must support the policies YOU think are best. Maybe you should run in 2012. You
won't get my vote though.

Joe would have told you to f@#$ off.

Enquiring minds want to know. I want to hear about this super-being who can win over a plurality of the ENTIRE country with their policies and cut through Washington gridlock and steadfast political opposition while surpassing our current President's list of legislative accomplishments in a comparable span of time.

I'm just going to give him what he wants. Unless things drastically change, I'm not pulling the lever labeled Obama. Why don't you support the President in his wishes?

Reactions like this are proving Gibbs' point.

If I were fighting the shitstorm of Republican opposition and Teabagger groundswell of racism that Obama does, and if I still managed to sign some major legislation that no previous recent administrations, be they D or R, managed to do, yet I continue to hear from the Left that I haven't done a damn thing or that they can't tell me from the shitheel who got us INTO this mess that I'm trying to clean up, I'd tell those who are making those assertions that they must be out of their fuckin' minds.

And that was the point Gibbs was making. On those specific assertions.

But if the Left is going to be so wound up they can't handle being called out and cannot get it together to understand the big picture, then it deserves all the loss it brings on itself for setting up the circular firing squad and allowing Republicans, always ready to band together right or wrong when it counts to advance the party, back into power.

This is a lesson that some are very, very slow to learn. And soon there won't be any coming back from it.

Enjoy President Romney in 2012.

they're going to run on their great health reform.

yea: f*** off.

Who knew we had that many professional media folk on this site?

Funny how some can dish it out but can't take it.

"Funny how some can dish it out but can't take it." :think:

:shrug:

people in his administration foolishly says. But, suffice it to say that I'm sure the administration is frustrated. Obama has a lot on his plate, and everytime he turns around some consistently continue to criticize and threaten to jump ship because their specific issue isn't being addressed fast enough. Constructive criticism is fine, but to continuously sling snot and threaten to withdraw support looks really infantile to say the least.

and not the plan to "exit" part.

almost word for word

you know it. Apparently, you are one of the people Gibbs was alluding to.

but i will not pin my hopes on it..i hate this war..its ridiculous..a fools errand and you or no one else will convince me differently

i sat here with my jaw dropped..the words were not his..he delivered them but almost stumbled thru the blatant lies of it

Feel better now?

Al Gore pretty much blew me off when we met a few months before election 2000. I still voted for him. He could have cursed me and my family and I still would have voted for him.

Should I have helped enable Shrub's coronation by abstaining from voting or voting for idiot boy?

I don't understand what kind of logic drives some of you. I really don't.

Wars? Corporate favouritism? Reform that isn't? Undermining public education? Dangling SS over a cliff? Which of these am I supposed to rush to the voting booth to support?

And here's where I feed your last line back to you: I don't understand what kind of logic drives some of you. I really don't.

p.s. you are now ignored.

he told you to "f*** off"?

First, he didn't tell anyone to "f*** off." He leveled a criticism.

Second, do you consider this a description of yourself: “I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush."

as others have said, get a grip.

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I want to see Van Jones as White House Press Secretary dealing with Pox News in their new front center seating at briefings :)

:hi:

LOL!

it's just to CYA.

No one told you to do anything. You hear what you choose to hear, see what you choose to see. And you choose to be a victim.

his signature on the Jobs bill this week acknowledges the suffering many people face and that he is attempting to be as supportive as the Congress will allow.

I have a feeling he must have told some people down in Austin as well, because they appeared to show up for his visit there with cameras and warm smiles.

Let alone be involved in politics. There's no way you've done all you said you did - you'd have been dissed at some point in the process and quit.

There is no candidate that will LISTEN TO YOU. They will listen to others too. Not just YOU.

We don't need whiners when we're fighting in the trenches.

Gibbs is late to the party, but he's certainly welcome to join us.

:rofl:

You think it is wise to have a Democratic administration attacking its own base with GOP talking points? Stunning ignorance.

Let's do some math, shall we?

According to a Gallup Poll from last year, 21% of the voting public self-identify as liberal.

Voter Identification

Now accordinging to a poll from just this week, Obama has the support of 85% of self-identified liberals with 12% expressing disapproval.

Liberal Approval

And so the liberals who disapprove of Obama, the ones Gibbs was talking about, comes to about 2% of the voting public. And if you're a politician and your base is only 2% of the voting public, then you're the candidate of the Green Party.

The cold, hard political calculus is that Obama can abuse this group to his heart's content because a) they're not bloody likely to vote for Sarah Palin in 2012 and b) there are more votes to be gained in the Moderate Middle than there are to lose from the Far Left. So Obama actually gains net support in 2012 by B-Slapping the Jane Hamsher's of the world.

That is the stupidest thing Ive ever read, period.

Gibbs made a very stupid mistake, attacking Obamas base two months before a midterm. He should resign, sooner than later.

While ten percent in the middle are actually applauding Gibbs for kicking some ass?

Brilliant Strategy.

Hey, Captain! I've got an idea! Why don't we steer RIGHT TOWARD THE ICEBERG?

The Palin campaign will welcome your support.

:shrug:

Sorry, no link. Post was deleted.

or in what paper do you publish your column?

plus the big rule of you don't shit where you eat, someone should tell you about that one too.

I don't recall Gibbs losing the ability to have his own opinion when he became press sec.

isn't talking to you.