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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:40 PM
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Poll question: As of right now, do you expect to vote for Obama for re-election on November 6, 2012?
Things can (and will) change but where do you stand as of this moment? :shrug:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:41 PM
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1. I think 2010 is the next election.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:41 PM
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2. Obama isn't on the ballot in THAT one, though.
n/t.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:41 PM
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4. Of course.
But Obama isn't up until 2012. Silly.
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Powdered Toast Man Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:27 AM
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41. That's probably why the poll says for 2012n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:41 PM
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3. Voting for Howard Dean nt
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:42 PM
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5. I expect him to be the nominee
So I'll be forced to vote for him. I've been forced like this before.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:42 PM
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6. Strongly leaning not.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:43 PM
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7. Since we do not know whether, or by whom, he may be primaried
the poll is either:
ignorant
pointless
flamebait
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:46 PM
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9. Oh come now.
It's not near as pointless as your response in this thread. :)

Besides, while he may be primaried, I think it's pretty certain that he will be the nominee...if he wants it. So the question is about November.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:16 PM
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51. or maybe all of the above.
I getting really tired of these loyalty oath types of post.

k&U for once again pushing a "You are either with us or against us" type of rhetoric.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:46 PM
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8. who else are we going to vote for?
I'm certainly NOT voting for a republican!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:48 PM
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10. Third-party, write-in, and abstention.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:55 PM
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11. You can do that but remember every vote for a 3rd party is a vote for
a Pub. Every Dem who stays home gives the upper hand to the Pbs. Just give it some thought. You have a lot of time to think about it.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:15 PM
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16. Bullshit. I am sick and tired of being threatened by the boogie man meme........
"Vote for the guy with a D in front of his name, or get a repug".

I would of thought, after the 2000 election, that the Democratic party would of learned their lesson and at least given the liberals of the Democratic party a legitimate chance to be heard and a handful of liberal reforms would be seriously pursued.

Instead, the Democratic party is hoping to play the George and Dick fear card and attempt to scare liberals into voting for their candidate.

The neo-crats want the liberal vote, but their willing to give anything in exchange for it. Well, I shouldn't say anything, we get a crumb here and there, but nothing that amounts to real reform.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:37 PM
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24. it's not a boogie man it's the truth
very rarely is there every a viable 3rd party candidate. If that's not the case then it's gonna be one of the two major parties.

you do the math.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:48 PM
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27. It's the boogie man. In the last 30 years we have only had two Democrts ............
elected to the presidency, and although they promised to pursue real liberal ideas, neither did/have done so.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:01 PM
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28. You are right, but also recognize that there was always a 3rd
party candidate to muck up the orks except for the 2008 election. Clinton had the advantage of H. Ross Perot who apparently gathered enough votes from the Pubs & Indies to win, and Gore had Ralph Nader who, coupled with the butterfly ballot threw that election into chaos.

I too wish w could have another Roosevelt administration but reality dictates that it's simply not going to happen.

I wasn't trying to enflame you, I'm just being a realist. The twoparties have set up a overnment & process that makes it impossible for any alternate party candidate to ever win the Presidency. Yes we have a fe Indipendants in congress, but that's it. Please don't slam the messenger.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:57 PM
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12. I will vote Democrat
Hopefully not for Obama though!
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:25 PM
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18. You will vote Democrat?
Or Democratic?

It's Democratic. Vote Democrat would be the way the right wingers say it.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:57 AM
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34. I am actually kinda tired of people saying that, because it;s not true
Mnay Dems say "Democrat." I've noticed it's usually a regional thing and often an age thing.
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Powdered Toast Man Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:29 AM
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42. They forgot the word "the"
It's a crime... They should be strung up by their own boot straps. :sarcasm:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:57 PM
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13. Lord willing and the creek don't rise!
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fogonthelake Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:03 PM
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48. LOL. I have not heard that one in a long time. My grandma used
to say that. Brings back good memories. Thanks.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:58 PM
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14. Certainly.
What real choice is there? I'd never vote for anyone who could make it through the Republican primary and voting third party is a futile gesture. Abstaining is not in my nature despite my view of the political process being absolutely meaningless.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:14 PM
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15. It doesn't matter who wins....
I mean the president doesn't have all that much power anyway, so what difference does it make? I mean the president doesn't control the senate or the house, and he doesn't draft legislation. So really, what harm could a republican president do? The office is really just powerless when you get right down to it.

I didn't used to think that, but I've been convinced thank to the wonderful posters on DU who have educated me on the fact that the job is pretty much mostly ceremonial so I shouldn't get upset with Obama.
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:30 PM
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20. Supreme Court!!!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 07:30 PM by blaze
This is why it really matters.

Supreme Court Justices!

They brought us "Citizens United"

IT DOES MATTER!!!
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:46 PM
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25. Yeah....
...well maybe if Kagan proves to be some sort of stealth liberal firebrand to the left of the one she replaced then I'll buy that as an excuse. But if this coming election turns him even more rightward in his choices and actions as I suspect it might, I"m not even going to by that argument any more. But if he's going to continue to base his choices on who results in the least amount of fight and hassle for him rather than who is the best for the job, then I see now reason to believe why his selection with a potentially 51 seat majority in the senate will be any better than his selection with a 58 seat majority was.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:52 AM
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32. What if you're pro-choice and pro gun?
Then it doesn't matter, because it's going to be someone who is one or the other, and I don't want that. Bush's picks were terrible, and Obama's are terrible on the 2nd Amendment.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:18 PM
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17. Other: Wall Street and the mega corporations have already picked who will president in 2012.
They will let us in on their choice in due time. In the meantime there will be Monday Night Football and Basketball all day every day.
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:26 PM
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19. Wish I could find a cite... re incumbents vs not
I remember Thom Hartmann quoting some statistics.... bottom line was, if we run someone *other* than Obama in 2012, the repub will win. Just based on historical references.

And the really critical matter here is Supreme Court Justice nominees. If we lose the next presidential election, we lose the opportunity to turn the Supreme Court away from corporate support and back to support of the people.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:35 PM
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23. Well, let's look at the past few decades.
In 1968, LBJ was primaried just before he left in shame, deciding not to run.

In 1980, Kennedy primaried Carter and Carter lost in a landslide.

In 1992, Buchanan primaried Bush and Bush lost.

Trend is this: If incumbent president faces a *serious* challenger, he is more likely to lose in November. I don't think that will happen this time. Token opposition, perhaps.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:34 PM
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21. Voting Howard Dean, or Alan Grayson, or Anthony Weiner -- I want REAL Change..Not Pocket Change
Just saying.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:20 PM
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52. And you would get what exactly with the same Congress??
less than what you've got now
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:35 PM
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22. Given that they'd arrest me for impersonating an American if I tried, no...
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:48 PM
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26. He's too deeply tied to corporate donors to make a good President.
So, no, I won't vote for him again.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:02 PM
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29. Like who?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:41 PM
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30. It's really sad to see that people are still under the delusion that Obama is a populist
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638

http://mrssatan.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamas-big-corporate-donors.html

http://agonist.org/timgatto/20080221/obama_doesnnt_take_special_interest_money
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:54 AM
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33. That was debunked long ago......
so you are late! Real late.....
like back to the primaries?
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:07 PM
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31. If there's a labor or progressive third party I'll vote for them
Otherwise Obama gets my vote.
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Edith Ann Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:59 AM
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35. Obama
Obama has done a lot even with the party of no around his neck. Be as mad at him as you want but if you think not voting or voting for a Repug. with save your A**, your an idiot. Vote him more support and see what he does in the next 6 years. There is a difference in campaigning and governing. He controls his campaign, but he has to work with Congress now.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:08 AM
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36. I will not vote for him
because he won't run.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:06 PM
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44. Dream on. nt
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:33 AM
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37. Depends on who runs against him in the primary.
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Shanti Mama Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:45 AM
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38. Absolutely. He will be nominated
and I will vote for him.
I'm a pragmatist and he will be the lesser of evils. Actually, he's not evil. I like him, faults and all.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:48 AM
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39. I honestly don't know.
Ask me in 2 years.

:shrug:
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:27 AM
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40. Definitely
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 11:29 AM by LatteLibertine
I'm not sitting at home and I'm not voting for a Republican.

I wouldn't mind seeing a more aggressive progressive option.

We need to make sure we keep the House and Senate in a Democratic majority.

Just say no to returning to Republican rule.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:49 PM
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43. Happily voting for Obama.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:40 PM
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45. Wow. Only 13% of DUer are leaning or definitely will not vote Obama.
Pretty solid for POTUS, if DU sentiment means anything at all.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:50 PM
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46. I'm certainly not voting for a GOP candidate
If Obama's on the ballot I'll vote for him. GOP's right out, and I don't think a 3rd party candidate is viable under current election laws.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:57 PM
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47. do I have a fucking choice?
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:13 PM
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49. Hoping for a primary challenge isn't an option in your poll. eom
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:14 PM
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50. There will be no successful primary challenge to him.
There's a better chance of Sarah Palin winning a Nobel science prize.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:24 PM
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53. Never say never
;)
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:24 PM
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54. I complain about him a lot, but I will 100% vote Democratic!
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:25 PM
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55. Anyone who voted the last choice should just leave the DU!
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