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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:04 AM
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Poll question: Tinfoil hat: Are the polls showing neck & neck races a set up for machine vote flipping?
If the public perceives so many races so close (via corporate media polling), doesn't that make flipped election results more plausible?

Are we being set up again?
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:08 AM
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1. thats how they do it, I believe they miscalculated Obamas appeal
they wont make that mistake again. And what has been done to secure the vote?! NOTHING

is this a great country or what!?
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:09 AM
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2. Just another example of good ol' American entrepreneurial opportunism. n/t
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:17 AM
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4. Actually, the polls leading up to 2008 turned out to be very, very accurate

The consensus was a 7-point Obama win. It was a 7-point Obama win.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:23 AM
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5. Generally, the strategy is to only steal an election if it's close.
Keeps the narrative at least semi-plausible.

When the spread is less than 3-4%, that's when we start seeing 2000/2004-style shenanigans.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:16 AM
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3. Except that polls run by Democratic outfits are showing the same kinds of numbers
...

Unless you think they're in on it too.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:33 AM
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6. Not all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMfXQSnPs-4&feature=player_embedded#t=193

http://www.newsaic.com/f911chap1-3.html
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:35 AM
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7. Where's the "are you insane?" choice?
Unrec and hide - this sort of post is not useful and definitely doesn't belong in this forum.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:21 AM
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11. Thank you for your post.

Cheers
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:43 AM
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8. The fact that there's no way to answer that question is a major part of the USA's problem
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:04 AM
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9. I still can't believe we haven't really addressed this.
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 09:05 AM by FormerDittoHead
I mean, would any politician say in public they DON'T want to be fairly elected???

I don't understand the politics of this. Who would oppose this PUBLICLY?

So why don't they DO SOMETHING and map out a better way of doing this, starting with talking with the hundreds of very qualified people who are devoting time to fixing the system and/or proposing a better way.

This is yet another reason why so many people are as dissatisfied with gov't as they are with big business. Here's something that everyone wants, really wouldn't cost that much, would benefit everyone, yet NOTHING IS BEING *DONE*.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:19 AM
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10. I have believed from the get go that the polls are lying
they want people to believe republicans are winning. That is why the media is spewing over and over republicans will win. They know they have most of the voting machines programmed for a republican win. They think by telling us this over and over when they do steal the elections, like Bush did in OHIO, that we will think it is legitimate. I will never believe that any republican wins legally until it is proved.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:52 AM
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12. I have a strong suspicion that this is exactly what happened in the SC Dem primaries
Alvin Greene's opponent, Vick Rawls, got around 6070% of the absentee ballot vote in every precinct, yet he lost by that much in the main election. We have paperless, electronic voting machines here. Our state government is run by republicans. Jim DeMint's popularity has been declining. The whole thing reeks.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:56 PM
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14. That stinks to high heaven. n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:53 AM
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13. I believe so because the M$M isn't telling us that while Americans may be angry at Dems
they also loathe Republicans!! If it's close, they can steal it!
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:00 PM
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15. Probably. More dems need to volunteer at the election sites to make sure everything is fair.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:08 PM
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16. :SIGH:
WHAT will it take? :eyes:
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