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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:51 PM
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Rattner is a disgruntled ex-employee who is making shit up

The administration let him go when an investigation into his role in a New York pension fund scandal intensified.


...and he's trying to "get them back" with his book.



He's a tainted witness.



While I believe that Rahm said "Fuck the UAW".... because Rahm uses colorful language all the time, to say the least.... I don't believe we're getting the full context.



Actions speak louder than words, we keep being told by the "professional left". Well... the GM/Chrysler rescue package was EXTREMELY generous to the UAW. In fact, it saved the UAW.

So even if the context of Rahm's quote is bad, the actions of the administration toward the UAW and on the UAW's behalf were exemplary.



Obama saved the UAW in the spring of 2009. That's why the UAW is working very hard for Democrats this fall.


Rattner and FDL are working to undermine the President, regardless of the facts of the situation.



When Jane Hamsher decided to join forces with Grover Norquist, that should have told us everything we need to know about Jane Hamsher and FDL.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:59 PM
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1. I believe theer's some truth to what he said. I bet Rahm did say fuck the UAW too.
This administration is more liberal than Clinton but is still very business friendly. Plus we all know they took corporate money during the campaign. But you're right we'll never really know the degree to which what he's saying is true.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:00 PM
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2. Rattner's still on the payroll
Rahm told him, ok now go out there and write a "tell all" book which in fact makes us look pretty good. Especially the part where I dissed the UAW. Yeah the retard libs won't like it but who cares about them.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:51 PM
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3. He's a repub too.. n/t
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:00 PM
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4. saved the UAW?
Have you seen what is going on in Indiana?

They are trying to force a nearly 50% paycut on them.if it happens me in my little shithole job will make FAR MORE in my non union shop than will be made by the people in those jobs saved.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:14 PM
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5. So, progressives can criticize Obama vigorously and daily,
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 04:14 PM by Phx_Dem
but God forbid anyone criticize a union. Rahm says "Fuck XXX" about anyone or anything almost daily. Who fucking cares. The unions aren't above criticism anymore than, apparently, Obama is.

And, as I recall the unions did pretty well under the GM bailout plan.



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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:19 PM
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6. the unions did pretty well?
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 04:34 PM by backwoodsbob
going from 29 an hour to 15ish is doing well?

on edit:

a copy of a post from Indianagreen in the Indiana forum.


Indianapolis GM Workers Resist Company, Union Pressure to Cut Pay

by Dianne Feeley | Fri, 09/03/2010 - 10:45am

The CEO of JD Norman Industries, which makes metal components, placed a full-page ad in the Indianapolis Star two days after GM workers booed his buddies off the stage. They wanted no part of Norman’s offer to buy the Indianapolis Metal Fab plant GM has slated to close. But Norman is desperate to buy the plant—if workers will cut their wages in half.

Norman called for a meeting in a local stadium last Sunday—but only 50-60 workers and their family members showed up, out of a workforce of 630. He offered lump-sum payments of $25,000-$35,000 over a two-year period for those willing to work at $15.50 per hour (with almost all contract rules over working conditions eliminated, replaced by “management rights”). But a six-year-old company with little expertise in the auto industry doesn’t offer much security.

As members left the meeting some told reporters that they had listened but Norman had nothing to offer. UAW Local 23 shop chair Greg Clark, who has led the fight against wage cuts, filed a complaint against Norman with the National Labor Relations Board, saying he had tried to circumvent the union.

The members of United Auto Workers Local 23 had already voted 384-22 not to reopen their contract, back in May. They knew that its successor clause means that any company buying a closed plant has to honor the GM-UAW contract. The majority of members have worked for GM for years, earning a good wage and decent health care and pensions. Many are GM “gypsies” who have been forced to relocate from plant to plant as shutdowns spread like dominoes. A shutdown in Indianapolis would mean one more transfer, a sacrifice they prefer to a gutted contract.

Norman needs a yes vote in order to buy the plant and void the successor clause. Not only does he need workers’ skill in operating the plant, he doesn't want to run the plant non-union because the contract prohibits GM from outsourcing the work to a non-union business. He needs a union contract—no matter how substandard—in order to sell his stampings to GM. It’s not just the physical plant Norman needs, but the business and its workers.

http://labornotes.org/blogs/2010/09/indianapolis-gm-wor...
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