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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 04:37 PM
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REMINDER: Conservative economic policies caused this great recession
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 04:37 PM by uponit7771
Jus a small reminder that's seemingly needed every on hour the hour around here.



P.S............... Pony
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 04:40 PM
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1. Most economic crises are based on the mistaken belief that conservatives know how to govern.
Simple rule: You can't put someone in charge of government whose philosophy rests on the idea that government is fundamentally useless.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 07:17 AM
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17. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 04:45 PM
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2. ok... and what have our dems done to stop the bleeding?
bail out big banks... I'm a Democrat, never have voted for a Republican, and unless something magical happens to that party(it won't), I will never vote for them. That said, our party isn't helping matters much. So no... both parties are now guilty. And because Obama appointed the very same creeps who are responsible for our economic woes, I'd say he will be partially responsible, and I'm being kind by saying "partially".

flame away
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 04:47 PM
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3. They've bailed out the banks, and spent billions on stimulus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're "a life long dem but..."

I've heard that one a million times.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:28 PM
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5. "..both parties are now guilty..." BULLSHIT! The onus belongs on the republicans PERIOD END OF STORY
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:32 PM
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12. no, it's not bullshit
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 09:33 PM by fascisthunter
and if ya really care about this country, you will first have to accept the fact that both parties are screwing this country. It was both their responsibility... They are bought and paid for by Wall Street and multinational corporations. There are a few good men and women, but just not enough...
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 04:55 AM
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16. Again, the ONUS does NOT belong on democrats
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:55 PM
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15. wow, your scales are way out of balance
sorry but no.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 04:51 PM
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4. Who is going to drive that point home for the historians? The media? The Obama admin?
No one will let that message get out there, because most people with any sort of power to "control the message" are still strong believers in conservative economic principles.

We had a golden opportunity with Obama to show the crystal clear difference between liberal and conservative economic policies. Too bad Obama seems to be holding on to his Chicago school/Milton Friedman roots.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:37 PM
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6. Thank you. Thank you. This needs to be repeated 24/.7 and
every Democrat who appears on Televsion should find the time
to blurt it out loudly.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:42 PM
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7. Where is the DNC on this!? GOP econ ideals stink for democracies! Not tellin America this over & ove
...over again is a diservice
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 07:37 PM
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8. and conservative economic policies have helped keep it going.
You know, like putting Goldman Sachs in charge of the Treasury and bailing out banks with trillions without meaningful restrictions...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 07:42 PM
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9. And not without the complicity- and often ACTIVE role of Democrats
Many of whom are still in Congress, the Senate and in the administration.

Pretty fair to say though that if the Democratic wing of the Democratic party were actually writing the policies- not only would the recession have been avoided, but the US might actually have responsible health care and financial regulations in place that would improve the economic situation dramatically as well as helping ordinary Americans.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 08:53 PM
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10. President Obama is always
driving this point home. In fact, wasn't there some mediawhore type "goading" laura bush into saying something about how Obama is always pointing out bush is to blame for the MESS?

Cross post~

HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-16-09 10:20 AM
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CBS news actress goads Laura Bush into accusing Obama
of talking down to her husband's administration on the Early Show this morning. I forget the word she used. Started with a "d". It's not online yet, when it is I'll post it. I wanted to smack her. Not Laura, but the bitch interviewing her. She SOOOO wanted Laura to play the victim because Obama mentioned on several occasions that he was cleaning up the mess Bush left behind. (and to drive that point home, she played several different clips).


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x3966

I know the corporate media doesn't acknowledge reality.
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 08:56 PM
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11. If the conservatives screwed the Banks, Geithner is bailing them out
so that must be good?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:16 PM
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13. The Problem Is That Some Democrats Signed Onto Those Policies
And they still believe in them. Giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy and deregulating businesses do not create stable, growing economies. What it really does do is to create speculative growth based on borrowing money, and when the speculation ends, the economy is thrown into a free fall.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:27 PM
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14. Considering what's happened, the fact that the administration is opposed a financial transfer tax
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 10:27 PM by depakid
modeled after the one in the UK is astonishing.

Maybe it shouldn't be- I mean, many Democrats also opposed the bankruptcy cramdowns and credit card interest rate caps- and delivered up a hollow bill hen they could well have gained a LOT of populist mileage.

I suspect that will come back to haunt them next year.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 07:54 AM
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18. Yes, but we need to be honest here: Bill Clinton's reluctance to regulate
the industry (derivites, for instance), the repeal of Glass-Steagall, NAFTA, got the ball rolling. Even Clinton himself, with the acknowledgment from Alan Greenspan, admitted that he deregulated the industry too much. I think a lot of Clinton's policies caused the problem, continued under "Dumbya" Bush.
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