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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 03:18 PM
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Regarding the Deficit Hawks, Democrats are driving me fucking crazy (PAYGO)
I swear, I'm pulling out my hair over this.

Why aren't Democrats hitting the Republicans on this very salient issue:

The Republicans, who are screaming about the deficit, all voted AGAINST PAYGO!!

Not only that, remember all the scare tactics regarding the Reconciliation process?

The Republicans voted for two rounds of tax cuts--TWO ROUNDS--through the Reconciliation process! This was a move that violated PAYGO rules. The only way to get these through was to ensure that they sunset/expire in 10 years.

I reiterate: TWO ROUNDS OF TAX CUTS in 2001 and 2003 that weren't paid for!

Worse...

Violated PAYGO rules!

Now, the Republicans want to come back arguing for extending these very same tax cuts that will add trillions to the deficit--a deficit that they used to say didn't matter!

It's driving me up the fucking wall that the Democrats aren't hammering away at this!

The Republicans voted AGAINST PAYGO!! They voted AGAINST it!!!!

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/28/senate-gop-paygo/
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 04:00 PM
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1. Yep this drives me insane too. If we don't let people know it is like it never happened.
People don't seem to be aware how phony tje Republican concern about the deficit really is when ot.comes down to actually doing something about it.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 04:20 PM
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2. That, and the fact that the very same people who did this to us are being put right back
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 04:21 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
into power.

This meme about "throwing all the bums out" apparently doesn't apply to the Republicans. Just the Democrats. Because if this really were able the incumbents and anti-Establishment, then why are the teabaggers/Republicans and their supporters in line ready to put the same people in?

To those teabaggers who claim that they weren't "for Bush" really weren't "for Bush," then they shouldn't be for the Republicans who were in Congress at the time that Bush was president because these are the same Republicans who did this shit.

It just drives me crazy!!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 06:04 PM
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3. Selling it just isn't part of the Democratic way, I guess. nt
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:18 PM
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4. I can't remember the debate (Conway v. Paul? Angle v. Reid?), but the
Repuke was actually MOCKING "PAY-GO", and going on about what a bad idea it is, "blaming" his opponent for having voted for it, and there was no retort. Apparently, we Democrats don't have anybody in the framing business.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:51 PM
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5. "Deficits don't matter," -Dick Cheney- and to prove it they ran up $9.2 trillion in debt
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THE LAST 3 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY 100% OF OUR INCREASE IN THE NATIONAL DEBT SINCE 1981
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Every President, from Truman to Carter, steadily paid down the staggering debt that was run up in our fight against Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. That pattern came to a screeching halt with Reagan/Bush and Bush. Clinton’s fiscal policy was a brief respite during this orgy of deficit spending.

Clinton balanced 5 budgets, which is 5 times as many balanced budgets as the last 5 Republican presidents combined.


President Obama, like President Clinton, inherited a sea of red ink and a recession from his predecessor. He, like President Clinton, recognizes the importance of getting America back to work and then getting our fiscal house in order.


See National Debt Graph @: http://zfacts.com/p/318.html


WHY DO REPUBLICAN ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES EXPAND THE NATIONAL DEBT?
-The answer is simple mathematics. Reduced revenue + increased spending ='s increased debt-


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http://cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

The two biggest promises of "Trickle Down Economics" are it's greatest failings. Proponents of "Trickle Down Economics” claim that tax cuts, skewed to the rich, will create jobs and increase tax revenues. The graph above disproves the latter claim. Job creation plummets under "Trickle Down Economics (see http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/p/job-growth.html )and nine of the last ten recessions have occurred under Republican leadership (see http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com/p/history-of-recessions.html ).

Two things are certain to grow when a Republican is in the White House, unemployment and the National Debt.


By contrast, "Bubble Up" economnic priciples practiced by Democratic Administrations put people to work, rev up the economy, and balance the Nation's ledger books. Every time. No exceptions.




mike kohr
Bureau County Democrats
http://bureaucountydems.blogspot.com
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